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Featuring the hit singles ‘6 Underground’ and ‘Spin Spin Sugar’, SNEAKER PIMPS’ 1996 album ‘Becoming X’ turned out to be quite prophetic for one of its members Chris Corner.

While he would take on lead vocals after Kelli Ali’s departure on the subsequent albums ‘Splinter’ and ‘Bloodsport’, Chris Corner would soon venture out on his own as IAMX.

After the 2004 debut IAMX long player ‘Kiss & Swallow’, Corner relocated from London to Berlin which proved to be the ideal backdrop for the recording of ‘The Alternative’, ‘Kingdom Of Welcome Addiction’ and ‘Volatile Times’; this trilogy captured an electro Gothic aesthetic that combined the theatrics of Weimar Cabaret with themes of sex, alienation and dependency with strongly melodic songs swathed in an accessible grandeur.

Also a visual artist who has directed for Gary Numan, after making videos in Los Angeles to accompany the singles ‘Come Home’ and ‘I Come With Knives’ from the album ‘The Unified Field’ which brought in Jim Abiss (who had engineered ‘Becoming X’) as co-producer, Corner relocated there in 2014. The West Coast of the USA has been his creative base since and led to very productive period with ‘Metanoia’, ‘Everything Is Burning’, the instrumental record ‘Unfall’, ‘Alive In New Light’, the ‘Echo Echo’ acoustic album, ‘Machinate’ and the two volume ‘Fault Lines’ series among the works released.

Continuing his unconventional creative public therapy, Corner embarks on another European tour as IAMX to coincide with the release to streaming platforms of the previously tour-exclusive 4 track EP ‘UNMASK’ and the remix collection ‘IAMIXED’.

Chris Corner kindly spoke to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about his career to date and his transition into darker alternative electronic sounds to herald his next creative chapter.

You moved to Berlin in 2006 and then Los Angeles, how important has location been to your creative mindset?

Super important. It’s been essential to my stability, mental health, creative flow, and finding my purpose and my place. Environment is very important to me.

I lived a lot of years in the city and I thought it was kind of sexy and exciting and cool, but in the end, it pretty much led to a breakdown and mental health crisis. It wasn’t just the city, it was like combined city stimuli and overwork and existential crises and all of those combined.

I’ve moved from London to Berlin, that was a great move. Again, it was like each one was sort of relieving mental pressure, I think. And arriving finally here, which is very much just pure nature, is just what I’ve always been looking for.

I moved from Berlin to LA, spent a few years there, and then ended up in the desert out near Joshua Tree. First, spent a few years there, kind of indulging that kind of alien space and just sort of stayed in the area.

I still have everything here. I still have my creative spaces and I still have parties and people come out and still do all of those human things. But I think that quick and easy access to the universal feeling is what I’ve always been looking for. That shows in my, not necessarily in the work or the quality of the work, but just the life feeling that I’m carrying now. And it’s been essential.

Although you have always used synths, what prompted the shift into darker electronic sounds and use of modular hardware?

As much as I love analog and digital synths, there’s this sort of workflow that always felt limiting and a little bit strict. You know, you always have oscillators, you always have frequency modulation, you always have this, you always have that, a filter. In fact there’s a certain structure that is a little bit limiting.

The beauty of modular and this modular mindset is this sort of limitless, experimental way of piecing things together. I’ve always been looking for that, whether it be inside the box with plugins and digital synths and things like that, or outside.

When modular came into my life, it was introduced to me by cEvin Key from SKINNY PUPPY. It just opened this doorway into another space of electronic music that I’d always been yearning for, a more organic, creative, immediate space while also being hands on. A little bit like when you sculpt things.

I still feel like humans need to sort of be in contact with what they’re doing. And that’s one of the frustrating things about always working in computers, that we miss this tactile thing. Modular gave that back to me in a weird way because obviously I grew up with electronic music, but also I’m a guitarist and I have a traditional instrument background. And I can play piano and write songs in those ways. So modular brought a bit of organic energy into that electronic realm. The spontaneity and unpredictability of it made it feel more human than anything else.

What are your favourite electronic tools at the moment for the creative and production process?

There’s a really superb modular piece of gear called Morphagene, which is basically a granular sampler. It’s very expansive in its scope and you can do incredible things with it, manipulate things that you put into it in very, very unpredictable and otherworldly ways.

That’s a great thing, and it’s also a hands-on thing. In the box, if I’m working on my laptop or on my desktop computer, in my digital audio workstation, I would be using plugins like Portal. It’s a very interesting plugin by Output, an effects unit, but it also reacts in very unpredictable ways. And then I’ve got traditional mods of traditional synthesizers, like the SEM by Arturia.

I’m always looking for something that is pretty much going to surprise me.

How did excellent songs on ‘UNMASK’ like ‘Artificial Innocence’ and ‘There Will Be Times When I Will Need To Hurt You’ come to be left off the ‘Fault Lines’ albums series?

They weren’t ready when those albums were being finished. They were always on the periphery, not quite lyrically part of that story. For instance, ‘There Will Be Times When I Need To Hurt You’ was an incomplete song from many, many years ago. I started that in my time in Berlin, so that’s how old that one is, ancient. But it never made it onto any of the albums. It just wasn’t complete.

Certain things get thrown to the back of the room and you just sort of forget about them actually. There are many moving parts, particularly if you’re producing your own music and you’re working by yourself all the time. There’s nobody else to sort of reflect what could be. You’re kind of responding to the moment quite often. And it’s only now and again you have this feeling of like, “Oh, I need to really be organised and figure out what the hell I have here.”

But most of the time I’m really just working within my own head. I’m very unorganised in that machine. It’s just the way that I’ve always done things. It’s always, if I can keep it all in my head, then it must be relevant for what it is now, rather than thinking I should crowbar something in. So that’s my theory, that I subconsciously know what needs to go on that album. Those songs were just floating around.

When we tried to do the more fractured approach of releasing things in between albums, not necessarily being so structured about it, ‘Artificial Innocence’ was also kind of bugging me. I knew there was something special in it that I wanted to explore, and it wasn’t quite finished. So they just came to the surface.

And really, if I’m honest, sometimes by accident I accidentally find something that I’d forgotten about. And ‘There Will Be Times…’ was one of those tracks where I just found it and then realised, “Oh, it’s not gonna take that much to bring this into my modern self”. So yeah, it’s a bit of accident, it’s a bit of knowing, it’s a bit of different timing with those two tracks.

How do you look back the making of your two ‘Fault Lines’ albums?

It’s a combination of dread and pride. It’s been a super chaotic time personally. So the fact that those albums were able to be made at all, I’m pretty proud of. Cause there’s a lot of life distractions, but in it there’s a lot of intimacy and privacy that I just can’t help but write about. That’s how I always am.

So I’m not looking too deep into that right now. I think in a few years I’ll look back and try and process this with a bit more clarity and distance. But generally, I’m proud of them.

Even though I can always pick apart my work and say, “Yes, I see that is flawed because of this” or “That’s great because of this” sometimes you just have to complete and move on. That’s generally a high priority for me. I don’t think too much about perfectionism in the bigger picture, even though there is a certain element of perfectionism within the technicality of doing my work.

For me, it’s more about prioritising movement and getting things out. Sometimes I’ll hit it really well with a whole record, and sometimes maybe not. I’m pretty proud of all my work, so I’m proud of those too.

‘The Truth (Mimetic Hexes Rework)’ is really good, so for ‘IAMIXED’, how did you choose which songs to have reworked and did you set a brief for the various remixers or did you give them total interpretive freedom?

How do we pick them? Probably a mixture of randomness and some kind of personal need to exorcise my ghosts. I think ‘The Truth’ was super precise in its meaning about what was happening at the time to me privately. So I felt like I needed that to go on. It was super relevant to me. And then other ones are more like, “Well, that’s just a banger, so let’s do that”.

I also left a couple of choices to the remixers where they could decide which track they wanted to do. Like the Holy Braille track, I think they decided they wanted to do ‘Disciple’. So it was a combination of those things.

‘The X ID’ (clubdrugs Rework) is really good and might be the best of the ‘IAMIXED’ set, but is there a favourite for you?

It depends on my mood, depends on what I’m doing in the day, depends where my head is. If I’m driving along the road and suddenly I remember, “Oh, that’s that song,” and I like that. I think they’re all amazing. And I’m not just being kind of an ass-kissing, people pleaser. I truly believe that.

What is the lot of the independent artist now? You have proved it can work but what have been the pitfalls?

Yeah, surviving as an indie artist is exceptionally challenging. I think the hardest thing is the financial insecurity. You’re basically selling a product that is unpredictable, and you’re selling a product that’s based on culture and art. It’s a vague product if you do it in a way that is not a commercial cash grab. If you do it with your heart, culture changes, technology changes, everything’s changing all the time, and the pace of things is accelerated.

The biggest challenge is adapting, and the constant anxiety about having to adapt just to be able to sell a product, and being aware of that fact. I could say, “Well, maybe I should just always think about writing hits…” but I’m not in it for that.

You have to really balance this feeling of survival with love. That’s the sticky thing about being in the art business of any kind. Everybody’s looking for authenticity, unless it’s pop sh*t of course, but to have authenticity, you can’t constantly compromise for financial security. So what if my own authenticity isn’t sellable? Then what does that mean? Does that mean I have to change myself, change my product?

The anxiety is a bit of an engine, and it does drive you to improve your methods. I don’t think it necessarily improves your art, because it can add a level of doubt all the time if you’re not financially successful. I don’t like that about the music business, because I’ve met many incredible people over the years, and they’ve made incredible art and sold nothing. But I guess that’s just life. It’s an unpredictable, wishy-washy, intangible business. We’re constantly grabbing for what we can know about it and understand to make the best move.

There’s no structure apart from the structure that you make yourself. So you’re constantly creating your own industry in a way. Nobody ever comes to you and says, “You’re doing this”. You just have to create it on every level — not just the music these days. You have to create everything: content, tours, so much. That’s the lot of the indie artist.

How are you handling today’s social media world in terms of the IAMX brand, have you accepted and altered your approach over the years?

No, I haven’t accepted it. I wish I did. And I’m trying. We’re trying to dig a bit deeper now, experiment with a bit more of a creative approach to respond in different ways. I’m trying to get my head into it more.

It’s always been lacking because I hate it. I can say that with certainty. I’ve questioned whether I hate it or I’m just avoiding it and being lazy, but I think I just hate it. It’s just not attractive to me, the whole thing. I’m trying to find a way in, to be able to provide what I do best—which is the content to a certain degree—and to be mildly connected to it. I think a social media person needs to be good at doing that, but also have this deeper connection to the creativity of the project that’s happening. It needs to be very responsive.

It’s a difficult thing to find, because I don’t know if anybody likes social media anymore. Does anybody like it or is it just a grinding poison? I don’t know. It’s a very strange area, that whole thing. It offers a lot — well, it promises a lot all the time. It’s constantly promising you this thing, and that’s the addiction. You think that you can promote yourself massively, and you can grow, and you can do these things, and there’s always possibility, but it doesn’t quite do it unless you’re doing fucking rage bait or something like that. So I question the whole thing.

I will continue to try to lean in. In the past I’ve just sort of cut myself off and didn’t do anything. Neither did it create some kind of mythical character of “Oh, he’s so mysterious and great, I’m gonna follow him”. That didn’t work either. So it’s like, okay, you’re either there or you’re not.

There used to be a time when artists and musicians could just not do interviews, not do anything publicly, and that would make it more interesting or attractive. Unfortunately, I don’t think those days exist anymore. I think those days are dead. So yeah, I’m trying.

Do songs such as ‘President’ and ‘Think Of England’ (which you haven’t performed for a while) still resonate with you, especially with the various tensions and flashpoints around the world?

Yeah, they do. I’m pretty proud of quite a few of those old songs in terms of how they’ve held up lyrically. I think there is a certain timelessness to what they’re talking about. Some things have changed, but generally it’s always talking a little bit about the human condition in general.

So until AI takes over everything, I think we’re still gonna be connected to those things that those songs are always talking about. The yearning for change, critique of people in power, all those things. Gender interest too. When I was talking about my own androgyny and all that kind of stuff, I did not think culture would go there. So gender interest, that’s definitely a nice surprise. There’s definitely topics in there that I’m glad have held up.

In 2011, you talked of ‘Volatile Times’ so is it timely to bring songs like ‘Ghosts Of Utopia’ and ‘Music People’ back or are you wholly focussed on moving forward?

Sometimes I catch a glimpse or a memory and ‘Ghosts of Utopia’ might come into my head, and I’m like, “Oh sh*t, that’s pretty cool”. Talking about the divided hearts of America, and that was before Trump. Politics is just a reflection of our worst intentions, right? So it’s not rocket science in a way.

I remember working on ‘Volatile Times’ and the records — I don’t know if it’s the same for other artists — because I produce everything, they deeply consume me for years. So I do like to go back to certain things. But as a whole, I feel like I exhaust most possibilities with them, spiritually at least, and then I move on.

Maybe with a lot of time. Like with a track like ‘Bernadette’, I feel like I want to go and tweak that now. But I definitely grind them into the ground when I’m working on them. They consume my whole life and my being.

I often don’t feel like I need to go back to them, possibly for live, but live is more of a response to mood as well. It’s usually building upon what’s happened on the previous tours, adding bits and bobs. It’s rarely a whole revamp of everything.

So was ‘Bernadette’ from ‘Volatile Times’ someone you knew?

Yes.

One song that still remains in your setlist is ‘Spit It Out’, why do you think that one endures?

Maybe it’s because I feel like I never finished it and it bugs me to hell that I keep wanting to try and it’s never done. People like it. I don’t know if they necessarily like it in the way that I think they do. It’s difficult to know. I don’t always have a clear perspective on what it’s all about.

People like to sing along in the chorus. It’s one of those things that you see elevates people during the show, but other tracks do too. It could just be that it’s a kind of toxic worm in my brain that won’t get out and I need to keep chipping away at it. Or maybe it’s just a good song. I don’t know.

You once did a cover of DURAN DURAN’s ‘The Chauffeur’ and even performed it at an event in Japan with Simon Le Bon back in 2003, why that song and how did that duet come about?

When I was a little kid, my sister was obsessed with DURAN DURAN and she would play the albums. I liked it a lot, but that track particularly — it was a B-side — had this heaviness and slightly more serious, dark feeling that surprised me. Because as a kid you had this cool sexy boy band, right? So when that popped up, it was a doorway into sexuality and stuff that got my imagination going.

When it came about, I was in Tokyo working on stuff for a company that Simon co-owned. They were doing this compilation and they liked IAMX and wanted covers of things. I chose that, not for the benefit of Simon, but because I loved the song and it had this childhood yearning that I felt like I could do something with, because I was that kind of artist myself and interested in that.

He really loved the version. I think he felt flattered too, and the whole thing was a sort of mini-bromance for a bit. Then he decided to come on stage while I was performing it at that little festival we did. Interesting time.

You’re friends with Gary Numan who did remixes of ‘Spit It Out’ and ‘Happiness’ while you have directed his videos ‘I Am Dust’, ‘My Name Is Ruin’, ‘Intruder’ and ‘Saints & Liars’, have you tried making music together?

No. It was always avoided. It’s interesting. I think from both of our perspectives we kind of knew that was not the thing to be doing together. We’re both very clear and purposeful about our own projects. I think we can support each other in slightly different ways, but this idea of two titans clashing on the same page never felt right.

We got the chance to work together around the video thing, and that was great. He really loved my video work, so that just felt like the way to go.

I don’t feel like I need to do that with him. I still consider him a close friend. I think that kind of collaboration can actually damage things weirdly enough. I’ve had that in the past where collaborations are just unusual. It’s a unique way to relate to someone creatively. It can actually be super uncomfortable and intimate. It can be super light and cool too, but I think with our personalities, it probably would have been uncomfortable.

You are playing Infest in Manchester and also the two UNITY festivals in Germany, what are your plans in terms of presentation and content? Do you approach festivals differently from your own shows?

You are forced to approach festivals differently anyway. I try not to, but you have to loosen your grip. It’s so technical dealing with it, and festivals are generally chaotic, so there’s a certain amount of letting go involved. That’s quite difficult with IAMX shows because I’m pretty exacting. It just feels good for me to be exacting. So there is that. I don’t particularly like festivals, but having said that, I’m going to do my best to make these extraordinarily exciting — adding a quite special setlist, maybe some old tracks that haven’t been played for a long time or never been played at all.

So it’s going to be a pretty unique set, that’s for sure. It’s going to be super bombastic and highly energetic, but also incredibly emotionally intense for everybody. I want tears and sweat. Grinding thighs.

What is next for you? Where is your creative mindset now taking you?

I’m slowly injecting a bit of writing into my weeks. I am writing, and there are a couple of exciting things happening. On a private level I’m trying to get myself into a new creative compound space. I’m moving to another location, so I’m building that up. It’s a lot of work, but exciting.

I’ve got a new person in the project, which is very cool. I’ll be writing the new record fully and properly in the fall. I’ll be doing shows until then, but also writing a little bit, preparing, mentally gathering my thoughts and material. Then the next step is to release a new record in the spring. And that’s pretty exciting to me, even though I don’t really know what it is yet. I’m kind of looking forward to it myself.

The beauty of this life is that it does always feel exciting, even if you’re not quite sure what the fuck is happening. There’s just this feeling of possibility. I love that about art and this lifestyle. Regardless of the financial challenges, it always provides a sense of excitement and purpose.


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its sincerest thanks to Chris Corner

Special thanks to Victoria Jayne at Team IAMX

The ‘UNMASK’ EP and ‘IAMIXED’ are released to streaming platforms via Unfall Productions, also available as downloads from https://iamx.bandcamp.com

IAMX live dates in 2026 include:
Thale Unter dem Himmel (31st July–1 August), Hildesheim M’era Luna (9th August), Leiria Extramuralhaus (21st August), Manchester Infest (21st-23rd August), Oberhausen UNITY (18th–19th September with VNV NATION), Berlin UNITY (2nd–3rd October with VNV NATION)

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
22nd May 2026

COSEY MUELLER Interview

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Described as “someone pulling signal from static”, Berlin-based experimental electronic punk artist Cosey Mueller releases her second album ‘Embodiment Of Denial’ via Bretford Records.

Championed by Iggy Pop via his show on BBC Radio 6 Music and with a feisty attitude reminiscent of Peaches, Cosey Mueller has procured an increasingly driving danceability to her work while ensuring there are potential “Ohrwürmer” within the hooks. But behind this backdrop, she raises questions about love, power, equality, honesty and the media.

Even though the various topics might seem uncomfortable and dark at first, everything is lubricated by a playful sense of humour that serves to ease any tensions. For example, the album’s trailer single ‘Der Politiker’ parodies sloganeering and reclaims the declarative statement for the forces of good to gets you dancing while it pulls back the curtain. “It’s the denial to embody anything forced upon us by the outside and by others” she says.

Cosey Mueller spoke to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about the making of ‘Embodiment Of Denial’ and how it balances seriousness and wit, body and mind, and form and content across its eight relentless tracks.

How did your journey from the punkier bands DAS DAS and GLAAS develop into going solo and using more dominant electronic sounds?

Well the truth is that my solo project Cosey Mueller was myself experimenting with a synthesizer and drum machine in 2020. It was deep in the pandemic times, I had no job, a lot of time to kill and some ideas. I didn’t know how to record, I just recorded everything on cassette. And I never thought it would become a live act, it was just experimentation with sound and words. When I realised that it’s quite unique and has a life of its own, I decided to continue and it has been a road full of “learning by doing” ever since. The fact that the sound is more dominated by electronics is simply because I used a drum machine and synth, it was not a conscious decision.

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What sort of music did you grow up enjoying?

All kinds of music. I was born in Greece and actually grew up with traditional Cretan music and 90s pop which was on TV and radio. The big change came when I was about 11 years old and we started having internet at home (which was a new thing). I started discovering artists like David Bowie and Lou Reed but also discovered the history of contemporary music in general, which fascinated me. Then of course the German electronic stuff, KRAFTWERK, DAF.… but also a lot of punk and rock ‘n’ roll. Anything that sounded good and had some honesty, energy,  good lyrics and artistic value in it.

Do you have any preferred software tools or synths for composing?

I prefer analogue machines and use Ableton for recording. My favourite synth for composing is the clone version of  Roland SH-101, I wish I had the original.

How do you look back on the making of your first solo album ‘Interior Escapes’?

Well it was a good and bad time. As I mentioned before it was during lockdown, a super weird time, there was not much to do. I really love the album because I feel like it captured some kind of magic: the naiveté of not really knowing what I was doing is something I will never be able to repeat (it was the first album I produced). And I put a lot of ideas in it which had accumulated in the years before when I was studying art in UdK, doing a lot of word collages and stuff like that. The art and music and personal feelings all came together. There was no intention to go anywhere with it, it’s a very pure album.

Are you naturally ‘Antisozial’?

Yes but I can’t  be anymore since I play so many shows and work together with people. I guess I have ended up being more ‘sozial’ now, which is kind of ironic.

There is a lot going on around the world and closer to home which is disturbing yet accepted so before we know it, it could be “TOO LATE”; so how did ‘Embodiment Of Denial’ develop as a track and become the focal point for this new politically charged album?

Well we don’t live in easy optimistic times obviously. The track ‘Embodiment Of Denial’ is more  personal though. I never followed the path of having a normal life with a job, house, car, kids etc. In the past 5 years, I have given myself completely to making music, which offers no security and is kind of wild sometimes. It can get hard to communicate with normal people and to function in everyday life. I feel that I am the “Embodiment of denial of reason” sometimes, although I am a very reasonable person actually.

Two years ago I wrote the song ‘Falsches Ding’ which means “The wrong thing” and it has a similar theme. For some reason I feel like there is something wrong in unapologetically doing your thing. But this feeling is not mine, I did not come up with it, it was planted in me by society, parents, teachers etc. It’s important to resist embodying something you are not or something that is forced upon you. And I think it’s never too late to do that. So at the end there is optimism and hope. That’s what it’s about. And obviously it’s too late to stop me now.

‘Nimm Mich’ translates as “Take Me” and retains your post-punk spirit, how do you balance your guitars and synthesizers in your solo work?

I don’t know. I try to combine sounds I love. I really love punk, rock ‘n’ roll and the guitar playing of Link Wray or Chuck Berry for example, which has nothing to do with electronic music. But I also love synthesizers and drum machines, so I just try to bring those elements together.

The hypnotic ‘Contraddict’ gets down to the alternative disco, how did you become more interested in doing something more danceable?           

This track is obviously inspired by the song ‘Los Niños Del Parque’  by LIAISONS DANGEREUSES, but it became something completely different. There was a lot of experimentation, I had no idea how to sing it so I just improvised the lyrics following some written notes and kept the first take, doubling the vocals later. I have an artist’s education so sometimes I just do stuff and if I like it I keep it, if not I throw it away, there’s often no intention, no plan, no expected outcome.  I had no idea this might become more danceable.

‘Obey’ is a superb lo-fi electro number that is quite different from the other tracks on the album with its charming primitive beatbox and Divine intervention, how did this one come together?

 Actually ‘Obey’ was a  jam session at first. The beat comes from a Yamaha keyboard, the song is not quantized and all the instruments are played by hand. So I guess that’s why it sounds different. The lyrics came later, inspired by the atmosphere of the song, it has something serious and urgent in my opinion. I could even imagine this one as a soundtrack.

You talk about the “New discomfort” on ‘Neue Ungemütlichkeit’ which has a bit of a klassik kosmische vibe, what was this song influenced by musically?

I would say this song was influenced by my own music. I tried to do something similar to ‘Parallel Gekreuzt’. The difference is that I worked on the structure of the song much more, put some breaks and changes in it whereas ‘Parallel Gekreuzt’ happened through experimentation and is more organic.

‘Der Politiker’ is more obvious and quite NDW, is there any particular politician you are taking aim at?

No, it’s not directed to one person in particular. I felt that people have a general dissatisfaction with politics in 2024/25. And I noticed that people’s love turns to hate very fast and very easy when it comes to politics.

The angry ‘Verlogen’ refers to untruths, how do you find navigating the internet and social media?

It’s hard and has changed our perception of reality. Because there is no truth or untruth and this creates disorientation. The real becomes the unreal and the unreal becomes real. Like in a dream. I have started to not believe in anything anymore. It’ s a bit sad.

So who is the ‘Media Maniac’?

It is the men in positions of power abusing it, using the media to manipulate individuals. But also you and me because we receive whatever is thrown at us by the media and it can influence our thoughts and feelings.

What is next for you?

Touring, playing concerts in places I have never been to, as much as I can. And continuing to write, think and create music. Thank you!


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its sincerest thanks to Cosey Mueller

Additional thanks to Dina Paschalidou Brudi at Eclectica

‘Embodiment Of Denial’ is released on 22nd May 2026 by Bretford Records as a black or clear vinyl LP, CD + download, pre-order via https://ffm.to/embodimentofdenial

Cosey Miller 2026 live dates include:
Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen (23rd May), Berlin SO36 (29th May), Destroy Vienna Fest (20th June), Liverpool Frogfest (15th August)

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
14th May 2026

SDH Interview

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Comprising of Andrea P Latorre and Sergi Algiz, Spanish duo SEMIOTICS DEPARTMENT OF HETERONYMS have realised their promise and made their best album yet in ‘Rider’.

Commonly known by the abbreviation SDH, the pair started releasing music as members of post-punk band WIND ATLAS who by their final album ‘An Edible Body’ sounded like there was an electronic act waiting to escape, as the 2025 interim single ‘Threshold’ would later prove.

SDH released their self-titled debut in 2018 which has since been reissued by their current label Artoffact Records. 2023’s ‘Fake Is Real’ with potent songs like ‘Balance’ and ‘Talk In Dreams’ went out search of nightclubs where the dress code specified mischievous EBM and electronic psychedelia.

The new album showcases further growth and with their dark but accessible songs possessing a club-friendly gothique rich in anxious emotional tension, this “crash body music” is intended to be heard after the impact with “Bodies exposed to external forces, subjected to repeated impacts, and evaluated after the damage”. Everything sounds as if each track were a test of endurance.

On behalf of SDH, Andrea P Latorre spoke to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about their creative journey to date…

You mentioned on social media that with ‘Rider’, you “composed most of this album during a turbulent time when, frankly, it’s hard to hold onto hope”, were these personal matters or more existential?

Both. Obviously we are in a turbulent and terrifying time where neoliberalism is clearly failing the most vulnerable individuals on this planet in a resounding way. Faced with this situation, it is complicated to keep acting as if nothing is happening, or to keep releasing music and playing as if nothing were wrong — but somehow it is the only thing we have left. The little good that remains. While we keep resisting and fighting, making music is still something we can do for free and in a free way. We are also going through a complicated time as individuals; everything becomes harder and more uphill as the years go by, especially for a DIY band — but if we are still here, I suppose there is some inner force, or a force of some kind, that demands it of us.

How do you look back on your previous full-length album ‘Fake Is Real’, do you see ‘Rider’ as a natural progression? What in the creative approach was different with the new record?

Yes, I think everything we do is a natural progression of what came before. Not in a deliberate way — we don’t compose like that — but from a much more intuitive place. It has always happened to us that we are unconsciously searching for more precise ways of expressing what we sense. I can’t put it any other way. For me, the approach has been much freer. Sometimes, when you are a small, under-resourced band from Spain, the effort you have to make is so titanic that it is easy to lose your way and forget why you do things. It’s understandable — it comes from exhaustion — but with ‘Rider’, I feel that we have pushed ourselves to do what we truly wanted to do, which is no easy thing. Even so, I feel we can still be even freer.

Did Spain’s own dark 20th Century history have any influence in your thinking for ‘Rider’?

I mean… I think that, whether you like it or not, we are all influenced by the place where we grew up, for better and for worse. Not only by the Spanish Civil War and the authoritarian dictatorship — which lasted a long time, ended very few years ago, and left us in a state of complete isolation from the rest of the world — but also by our history: as a colonizing empire, by an exacerbated Catholic Christianity. All of that exists, and it is absurd to think that it doesn’t form part of who you are, or that you don’t react to it — in our case, by rejecting it. I think all of that defines you, yes.

Photo by Fissura

Do you think being based in Barcelona offers you a unique perspective in that many of world flashpoints are all around you?

Yes. I am from Valencia, but I moved to Barcelona very young, at 19, and without a doubt, my perspective on the world — and, I would like to say, my openness and my musical knowledge — is thanks to having grown up as a young adult in a bigger city that was more open to the world. Valencia is fantastic in many ways (I have now come back to live here), but I wouldn’t trade for anything having spent 12 years in a city that gave me the best in terms of music, literature, (free) education, culture… also the worst, socially and economically, but I am kind of grateful for that too.

So was the standalone single ‘Threshold’ in 2025 an important transitional recording in the lead up to making ‘Rider’?

Actually, no. Threshold was a song we made for our former band WIND ATLAS which was more post-industrial à la Chris & Cosey, COIL, PTV… but it did make sense to us that the single should be something unusual for SDH, not so dancefloor-oriented.

How did the car crash metaphors in the songs on ‘Rider’ come into being?

It all came together in a fairly organic way. We are both obsessed with the movie ‘Crash’ (the good one), and on top of that, I personally had a very serious motorcycle accident that left me unable to walk for a year — so pain and collisions are things I think about often and that are part of my life. Also, for some reason, when we proposed the concept of the album to the people at Fissura who did the cover design, they themselves suggested that the cover should feature a dummy — one of those mannequins used in crash tests. Everything came together in a very organic way.

Was the intensity of the composing and recording affecting your personal well-being, like having insomnia or dreams in English, that kind of thing?

Yes. In previous records there is more novelization or intellectualization — ‘Rider’ is a very visceral album that draws heavily from my own experiences. Obviously, what is real? I think fake is real and vice versa — that is, every construct is fictional and every fiction is true insofar as it produces realities — but yes, the writing of this album uncorked something that plunged me into some very dark months that I have found quite hard to come out of.

With the ‘Rider’ song and the album in general, you show off a diverse vocal range, not just from an octave point of view but timbre, tone and style… what is the process in deciding how to vocalise a song?

There is no process. That is, there is one, but it’s not deliberate. I naturally pay attention to those things without meaning to — I have always been drawn to singing, but even to the way people speak, to phonetics. So I suppose my brain and my voice are unconsciously searching. I have always been afraid of learning too much about vocal techniques, because for me singing is something very natural and fluid and irrational — but I suppose it’s an absurd fear, and that if I knew what I was doing, I would probably do it better, haha.

Who is the target in ‘You’ve Lost The Keys’ or is it multiple?

That I’ll keep to myself. But let’s just say it’s directed at a specific person with whom I have been through some difficult times.

The current trend in dark electronic music production, particularly in “darkwave” appears to be this horrible overblown artificial distortion, but SDH manage to have a punchy energetic emotive sound that doesn’t hurt the ears… what tools, hardware, software and synths are you using to achieve this?

Honestly we hardly listen to darkwave music. Maybe years ago, when we started the band, we were a bit more interested in that style, but nowadays we’re pretty disconnected from the scene. That probably makes us unaware of what bands in this style sound like today. Although I suppose we could be defined as dark electronic music, our influences come from other places, especially on this album. Before ‘Rider’, Sergi sold the little hardware he had and spent all the money on records, and for this album he hasn’t used anything but his computer and various software synthesizers and samples.

‘Dawn Fawn’ shows you still like to be dance friendly, is maintaining this important, especially for live performances?

Yes, and because I genuinely like lightness. It’s difficult because what comes naturally to me is intense, but we always try to laugh at ourselves and take some of the weight out of the idea of making music or writing songs. Even though it is tremendously difficult, I think the best songs in history are, even when dark, light — and they laugh at themselves.

Who is it that you “despise” in ‘Keep My Hands’?

I’ll also keep that to myself, but not everything one writes has an exact correspondence with reality. It’s more complex than that, at least for me.

‘Cruel’ displays a rockier approach and even has guitars! What was this influenced by?

Including guitars on the album was something Sergi had in mind for a long time, and we really would have liked to have included more, but some ideas were left on the back burner… I don’t know what was the direct influence but I remember Sergi told me he listened to the first GARBAGE record for the first time in years when he decided to include guitars… maybe it has something to do. Also, ‘Ultra’ era DEPECHE MODE maybe?

How did the collaboration with LUST FOR YOUTH come about, did you work together or remotely on ‘Night Visit’?

We have known Hannes of LUST FOR YOUTH for a long time, from when we were putting on shows in Barcelona completely DIY. He is one of those friendships that form in moments that are truly genuine and that, somehow, has held on over the years. We have crossed paths here and there but have always kept in touch. It’s one of the things we take away from those years of learning. Basically we made the song and Sergi was certain that it needed Hannes’ voice. We sent him the song, he liked it, wrote lyrics, recorded his part, and then we passed it on to Jack M!R!M! (another good friend we have found along the way over these years of touring) and he produced and mixed it. For me, it gives ‘Night Visit’ a very important dimension. It has been a dream come true.

Photo by Fissura

‘Behind This Dream’ is a glorious club-friendly closer to the album, how did this come together?

Haha, it’s one of my favourite songs on the album. At first I didn’t know how to approach it — the instrumental wasn’t suggesting anything to me — but one day, both of us were at Sergi’s place feeling quite frustrated, after I had finished watching ‘Northern Exposure’ (the series), it just came out of me. Exactly as it is now — the lyrics and the melody. For me it’s one of the best lyrics I have ever written, and I suppose I had been carrying it inside, pressing to get out, for a long time. It’s about disappointments, about unmet expectations, about accepting defeat.

Do you have any favourite songs from ‘Rider’?

My favourites are ‘Behind This Dream’, ‘Something Sublime’… I love ‘Defeated’, ‘Keep My Hands’ and ‘Rider’, I think? Actually I like them all, haha. Sergi has a special fondness for ‘Dawn Fawn’ and ‘Rider’.

It is a good period for dark female-fronted electronic acts, do you feel any affinity to artists like LINEA ASPERA, BOY HARSHER, PARADOX OBCUR, DINA SUMMER, DLINA VOLNY and NNHMN?

Well, yes, of course we like some of those bands! But as I told you before, the truth is we don’t listen to much darkwave — female or male fronted. Personally I listen to a lot of ambient, dark ambient, noise and more experimental electronics, and then pop along the lines of Faye Wong or COCTEAU TWINS. We have always felt very grateful to be part of this scene — the promoters and audiences we have encountered along the way have been absolutely wonderful — but also a little outside of it, both because of the music we make and listen to, and because there aren’t many bands from Spain in it, or that we have come across out there.

What is next for SDH?

We hope to play a lot. We would like to tour Latin America, do another European tour… playing the songs live is what we are most looking forward to right now.


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SDH play Liverpool Frogfest on Saturday 15th August 2026, and London’s Moth Club on Saturday 17th October 2026

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
11th May 2026

Vintage Synth Trumps with OMD

Photo by Ed Miles

Releasing their first single ‘Electricity’ on Factory Records in 1979, OMD are one of the leading lights of the innovative Synth Britannia era with their exquisite hooks and fascinating unconventional lyrical gists that included phone boxes, planes, oil refineries and historical figures.

Often using beautiful melodies to tell of terrible things, even when love was in the air, there could be a twist; in a 1992 co-write with Karl Bartos, ‘Kissing The Machine’ imagined a romantic liaison with a sexy AI robot, a Sci-Fi situation which today is close to becoming fact!

Inspired by their love of KRAFTWERK, NEU! and LA DÜSSELDORF, the Wirral duo of Andy McCluskey and Paul Humphreys realised their passion for European electronic music after the purchase of a Korg M500 Micro-Preset synthesizer. With numerous hit singles and albums across the world, OMD released their most recent album ‘Bauhaus Staircase’ in 2023.

2026 sees OMD’s ‘Summer Of Hits’ tour visit a number of outdoor locations in the UK and Europe. But a special indoor date takes place on Sunday 28th June at Brighton Centre, arranged by JOY Concerts as part of its NHS My Music series. Bringing a number of major live shows to venues across Sussex while raising funds to support local NHS services, 100% of profits from ticket sales and merchandise will support NHS projects across the seven hospitals of University Hospitals Sussex NHS Foundation Trust directly benefiting patient care, staff wellbeing and hospital environments across the local community.

The constant throughout the 48 year career of OMD has been Andy McCluskey; he kindly sat down on a call with ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK for a round of Vintage Synth Trumps and have an enlightening conversation about instrument technology, artificial intelligence, new music, obscure B-sides and much more…

The first Vintage Synth Trumps card is a MemoryMoog…

I actually do own a Minimoog that somebody painted white before I bought it, so it looks like some sort of kit Moog! I quite like the sound of the Moogs but you do have to leave them on for a quite a while to let the oscillators settle down and stop drifting, although maybe that’s part of the charm that they create their own harmonics, drifting out of tune with the oscillators *laughs*

That MemoryMoog… is that a digital one?

Yes, part digital… FIAT LUX had one and the producer Zeus B Held who produced FASHION, DEAD OR ALIVE and John Foxx, it’s his favourite synth… the MemoryMoog was Moog’s last polyphonic synth before they went bankrupt! *laughs*

OMD were not really a Moog band, we were definitely a Korg and Roland band, almost exclusively Korg and Roland, largely because they were cheaper than bloody Moogs!

You seem to have had two periods of acquiring hardware synths, first to equip The Motor Museum and then for the OMD reunion? Have you always been purposeful when buying synths as opposed to collecting them for the sake of it?

Yeah, I’m not really a collector for the sake of collecting, they take up so much bloody space! Funnily enough, when you talk to younger bands now who are “purists”, people like Martin Swan from VILE ELECTRODES and the MIDI-hell on stage, they are like “why haven’t you got your old synths… oh dear, what happened to them?” – they never stayed in tune, I don’t like to MIDI, you had to write down notes of every sound you’d created, otherwise you wouldn’t remember how get the sound back! And quite frankly, they took up too much space and they were too heavy to carry around!

I’m sitting in my programming room here, it’s all “in the box” in my G5 and I’m happy about that. Actually, I don’t have that many bass guitars either! But I’ve just had my original Fender Jazz bass put back in its original colours! That is my 1974 bass that I played on ‘Enola Gay’, ‘Souvenir’ and ‘Joan Of Arc’; when we had the exhibition in BIM in Liverpool, this was black but when I bought it, it was sunburst blue and red.

So as this IS the one that I played, I thought for the sake of putting it on display, I would get in back in the same colour. The company that made the scratch plate for me, I asked them for an orange one and they said “why?”… so I sent them a picture of me with it in the ‘Enola Gay’ video and they went “Oh my god! Tell you what, we’ll repaint the one that’s now black” and they even did the scratches to make it look exactly the same as when it was in the ‘Enola Gay’ video!

Are you using the Fender Jazz bass again?

Last summer, we got asked to play the 600th edition of ‘Taratata’, the French equivalent of ‘Old Grey Whistle Test’ and because my other basses were in America for a tour, I took the Fender Jazz bass to a guitar tech called Ross Scott who got the pick-ups rebound and completely replaced the electrics because it sounded terrible! The original pick-ups had been replaced in the 90s with noiseless pick-ups, but they were so dull because there was no top end! He got his mate to rewind the pick-ups and I played that live at ‘Taratata’ on ‘Souvenir’ and ‘Enola Gay’, it sounded fantastic.

Here’s another in the room, THIS is THE Korg Micro-Preset, that IS the one that we got from my mum’s catalogue that we painted black! It wasn’t working when we reformed… so you know the story of myself and Paul bidding against each other on eBay!? *laughs*

I got that one and after we sampled it, I got someone to cannibalise the good bits to fix the original one up which had broken keys and some of the electrics weren’t working. So it’s 99% the original, the one which we did ‘Messages’!

How did you come to support JOY Concerts’ NHS My Music which will benefit hospitals and community care initiatives in Sussex?

Quite simply, they asked us. We thought it was a very good cause and would like to support it. It fitted perfectly into the fact that we are touring this summer doing festivals, so we thought we’d come down to Brighton and have a party there to celebrate all of the amazing things that this is supporting.

This date is part of OMD’s ‘Summer Of Hits’, how are you choosing the setlist?

Basically, we going to play every hit single barring ‘Genetic Engineering’ because it’s a bast*rd to play on stage! *laughs*

‘Walking On The Milky Way’ will be back in the set. Obviously when we’re doing our full gigs where we are the headline act, it WILL be other things as well so we’ll probably still do ‘Veruschka’. It’s not going to be only hits because I think we’ve only had 16 or 17 hits, although that’s not bad for most bands! *laughs*

Has the OMD audience increased and changed since all the various adverts and syncs recently?

I don’t know if it’s just the adverts and the syncs but certainly the age demographic has expanded. When we first reformed, it was predominantly the fans from the first time around who’d come back to see us again. I don’t exactly know why, but now it seems that it’s a broader demographic. It could be because there’s newer bands out there that reference OMD as being influential, it could just be because in this post-modern era, there’s nothing “new” so there’s nothing “old”, nothing in-fashion, nothing out-of-date! *laughs*

So if you’re considered to be “iconic” within your genre which it seems we are, then people will come and find out about you and I’d like to think that we’re good live. So once people have seen us, they come and see us again. It’s just kept growing ever since we reformed in 2006.

Next card and it’s a Roland Juno 106… I know you had a Roland Jupiter 8 and some of the smaller Rolands?

The 106, we never had one of those but I use the 106 in my Roland Cloud Group quite a lot when I’m writing songs these days because I do like to go for the analogue synth sounds, although these are digital-analogue. I defy people to tell the difference… the purists say you can but you can’t!! We had the Jupiter 8 and they were unbelievably heavy those things! We got a bit lazy and we used a lot of that on the ‘Junk Culture’ album, ‘White Trash’ is ALL Jupiter 8! I still use Jupiter 8 from the plug-ins as well.

It’s quite fascinating with the Juno 106 and that series of synths, it’s the one that’s still knocking about as the vintage synth on stage, do you remember MIRRORS had a Juno 60?

I was so sad that MIRRORS split up, I thought they were so good. But listen, the Roland Juno, the reason why it’s still used is because it’s not as heavy as a Jupiter 8 and it’s cheaper! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH JUPITER 8s GO FOR ON eBAY?!!?? *laughs*

WALT DISCO have got their third album coming out this year, I’ve got everything crossed for them because I think they’re a brilliant band and it’s so sad to see great new bands not make it!

Would you like a recommendation? Have your heard A THOUSAND MAD THINGS?

A THOUSAND MAD THINGS, no but I’ve written it down Chi so I’ll check them out!

So in hindsight and yes, it was a long time ago but was it a mistake for OMD to get a Fairlight?

No! Absolutely not! There was no problem with the Fairlight, it allowed us to write songs… there’s nothing inherently wrong with any type of instrument, NOT EVEN A LEAD GUITAR! It’s what you play on it! It wasn’t the Fairlight but the situation we were in that made for some issues with particularly ‘The Pacific Age’ album but also to a lesser degree ‘Crush’.

Can I just say by the way, we has issues with ‘Crush’ and with ‘The Pacific Age’, largely because we have painful memories of their inception; we never had enough time to finish them, we were always right up against it! So the first 10 things we wrote were the album and particularly with ‘The Pacific Age’, there’s at least 2 tracks which SHOULDN’T have been on there in hindsight!

The other thing that was a negative influence on our recollection of those albums was the European fans’ negative response to them going “oh, you’re making this because you want to break America, you’ve got much more polished (and that was partly down to Stephen Hague producing) and writing about American subjects”; but I wasn’t writing about American subjects because I wanted to break America, I was just fascinated and it was new to me, it was just a new thing to sing about.

So these two albums, that fact that we made them under the cosh and the original European fans weren’t that knocked out by them, made me feel negatively. I don’t listen to the old albums, but I was really pleasantly surprised when I went back to listen to ‘Crush’… I went “that’s a really good album”, yeah it’s not ‘Dazzle Ships’ but there’s some great songs on there!

Photo by Brian Griffin

‘Crush’ got the expanded reissue treatment last year, what’s happening with ‘The Pacific Age’?

With ‘The Pacific Age’, we are actually going to re-release it for its 40th birthday BUT we are changing it! 7 of the songs have been remixed by Tom Lord-Alge because the original mixes were absolutely bombastic, the kick drum and snare drum were SO bloody loud! You couldn’t hear anything else. So Tom has remixed 7 tracks, ‘If You Leave’ is going on the album because it WOULD have been on ‘The Pacific Age’ if it wasn’t for the fact that Paramount Pictures still owned it at the time and we couldn’t get the licence.

AND we’re taking off 2 tracks!! This is going to cause a real issue with people who will go “YOU CAN’T RE-RELEASE IT AND TAKE OFF 2 TRACKS!” but yeah, they shouldn’t have been on there in the first place! You know what, if you like the original, you’ve still got it! OK, you don’t have to buy this one! It always gets me so annoyed, people start spitting their dummy out but you’ve got the original! *laughs*

So ‘Stay (The Black Rose and the Universal Wheel)’ is coming off, it’s NOT a good song and ‘Shame’ is coming off as well! ‘If You Leave’ and ‘This Town’ are going on the album, they should have been on ‘The Pacific Age’ first time around and 7 of the tracks have been remixed. So it’s going to be interesting, I think it will p*ss a lot of people off but we’re putting out the album that we WANTED to put 40 years ago! *laughs*

Another card, and it’s a Yamaha CS60…

NO! YOU’RE PICKING OUT ALL THE ONES I NEVER OWNED! *laughs*

They were like battleships these big Yamahas…

The Korg MS20 was confusing enough for me! They had that template on it and then you ran out of templates and you couldn’t buy any more! And forget the jack plugs, I never understood how the f*cking jack plugs worked! Considering we were a synth band, I’m absolutely a luddite when it comes to synths!

So which was your favourite synth, the one perfect one for your ability?

What’s the black Roland, the one that had 2 oscillators?

That sounds like the SH-2…

I hated it when Roland started making the SH synths in that horrible grey plastic, but the black ones in the metal cases were great. I’m not a synth geek, I can’t even remember exactly which one it is but it’s probably the SH-2 because we had an SH-09 and an SH-2.

I’m still a huge fan of the Mellotron but I have a digital copy, not the original one where we had to mess around with the tapes.

The Korg Micro-Preset, it’s f*cking horrible! That’s why we rammed it down the Eventide Harmoniser and triple-tracked it to try to make it sound acceptable! It’s got all these presets on it like ‘String’, ‘Wood’, ‘Voice’, ‘Bass’, ‘Synthe 1’, ‘Synthe 2’… doesn’t matter which preset you hit, it just went “EEERK”! *laughs*

Photo by Tom Oxley

Out of the four albums since the 2007 I think ‘English Electric’ comes closest to the imperial legacy of the first four albums… now you’ve had some distance, how do you look part on the 21st Century quartet?

I think that ‘History Of Modern’ was a good restarting of the engine, there’s some good songs on there; but it was a bit hit and miss, it’s a collection of songs that were lying around for a while. I think ‘History Of Modern Part 1’ is great which is why we still play it live. Although I think the live version is better than the album version! *laughs*

From ‘English Electric’ through ‘The Punishment Of Luxury’ to ‘Bauhaus Staircase’, I’m hugely proud of all three, we put a lot of time and energy into those and I think it shows. The songwriting, the ideas, the sounds, I’m exceptionally proud and I would say those three are up there with the first four! That’s my personal opinion.

My favourite on ‘Bauhaus Staircase’ is ‘Don’t Go’ which came out as an interim single first, but the way it sounded and was structured with all that KRAFTWERK Synthanorma sequencer stuff, did it date back to ‘English Electric’?

Not quite that far back but it was written as a potential B-side for ‘The Punishment Of Luxury’. I really liked the sequencer, all we had was that and we didn’t have a lyric but when it changed chord, I had the “A-ha” part. I kept playing it, trying to think of a lyric and in the end, I said to Paul “Let’s not use this, there’s something about this is so good, let’s not do a half-baked version as a B-side, let’s just keep that”

So we hung onto it for a couple of years and in the interim time, I managed to get the verse vocal and then when Paul wrote the melody for the middle eight. I don’t know how we do this but when you reprise the melody, it fits! It dovetails across the lead vocal so you can play the melody and the vocal at the same time and they’re not really clashing with each other! If ‘Don’t Go’ had been released in the 80s, it would have been a massive hit! It’s a great song, I’m so proud of it *laughs*

Written in 1992, first released in 1993 with ELEKTRIC MUSIC and then reworked for ‘English Electric’, ‘Kissing The Machine’ has turned out to be quite prophetic, so have you experimented with AI yet?

Both Paul and I fully intend to buy some really high end AI software and programming. We have to check the small print because the last thing we want is for them to actually own what we create. We’re going to play around, we’re going to try. The thing about AI, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it, it’s what you do with it. Now if you use it to pastiche other people or make fake new videos that looks like somebody famous doing something they shouldn’t or never did, that’s morally WRONG! But if you actually programme it and this is the thing, it’s not actually going to do anything that you don’t programme it to do… and if it does, it will be absolutely sh*t because it will be filling in so many gaps that it will just be pants!

However, I have not yet heard any music written on AI that sounds to me like a pastiche of music because it can only work from algorithms and programming, so it can only generate what you’re telling it to do a pastiche of. There’s no capability (yet) for any kind of genius synapse like would happen in your brain, where for no reason that you know the reason of, you’re just going to go “I want to try that” or “why don’t I sing this?” or “why don’t I play that note?”; 99 times out of 100, it’s shit because it’s just a brain fart but just occasionally, you go “WOW! THAT SOUNDS GREAT!”

Even if you could programme AI to do that and “throw in a note that shouldn’t work” or “throw in words”, it still wouldn’t know if it was a stroke of genius or just a piece of sh*t! So I’m not worried about AI music taking over the world at the moment because I haven’t heard anything that’s really that good, but I want to find out!

Photo by Ed Miles

Is there any new music coming up?

We do have a project that will hopefully come out next year in the “quiet” year that has a working title at the moment of ‘Requiem’. I’ve got all these pieces that are very linear and once Paul finally stops changing nappies and gets down to working again on these tracks, I need him to cut them up, look at this chord change and that middle eight to make the sort of thing he does on loads of things that I write. There’s no lyrics, it’s a series of very ambient funereal musical vignettes.

Is this the “piano” thing you mentioned at the 2024 talk event in Düsseldorf?

Yeah! But it’s not all piano, there’s now 5 pieces… the reason this has all come in my mind is that Andy Whitehurst who made all of the ‘Bauhaus Staircase’ videos has finally decided to try out AI and he made a couple of video demos to my music demos… I was just blown away, it re-inspired me! Now I am sitting in this room, doing more work. I don’t know what it’s going to be, I don’t know if it’s going to be a Bluray, a DVD, a video to download but it’s going to look and sound gorgeous.

I hope it can be released as OMD once Paul starts doing some work on it, he’s done work on one but he hasn’t played it to me yet. We are going to have to pitch it properly to people and say “listen, this is not what you’re going to expect from us, it sounds a bit like ‘4 Neu’, things like that”. I’d rather do that and be honest about it rather than say “It’s a lot easier not to write lyrics and not write a catchy melody!”; the people who like our more ambient B-sides back in the 80s will enjoy it.

It will be beautiful ambient music but the visuals will take it to another level. We did say ‘Bauhaus Staircase’ would probably be the last full studio album because Paul hasn’t got the time with 2 young children and why wouldn’t he want to sit in his swimming pool drinking wine in the South of France instead of writing music… smell the roses that you’ve planted over the last 50 years!

The ‘Souvenir’ boxed set had the ‘Unreleased Archive Volume1’ which recently came out separately on vinyl for Record Store Day 2026, will there be a “Volume 2”?

Unbelievably when ‘The Pacific Age’ reissue comes out, there’s going to be unreleased tracks that have been found! I thought we’d gone back through the archives and that there was nothing left! BUT THERE IS! So while there won’t be a standalone volume, there will be a separate CD and a separate vinyl album with ‘The Pacific Age’ of interesting unreleased things. 2 of them, I didn’t even remember and some of the others, I was like “Oh my lord!”…

I remember when I listened to ‘Unreleased Archive Vol1’ for the first time and really loving the ‘Liberator’ song and its “computer rock and roll” thing, why did you keep that under wraps for so long?

Oh, the chorus wasn’t good enough, I loved everything else and the line “Fell in love with a Liberator”, the verse was great and the backing track was great but the chorus wasn’t good enough!

The final card and it’s the ARP Axxe, I don’t recall you having any ARP stuff, or did you?

I love the ARP 2600 and I use it all the time, it is the sequencer in ‘Anthropocene’ and it’s also in other things… I’ve never had a real one but I love working with the one in my computer, I understand it. I start with a preset and then I start fiddling until I change the notes or whatever. Again, don’t ask me to plug jack leads in, I wouldn’t know what I was doing! *laughs*

PET SHOP BOYS did their ‘Obscure’ residency in April, would OMD ever consider such a run of gigs with no hits at all, it’s the complete opposite of ‘Summer Of Hits’?

How many songs did they do?

23 with 35 songs rehearsed…

So they mixed it up?

Yes, over the five nights…

…if I thought we could do five nights and charge the money THEY charge, then YES! *laughs*

There’s a dilemma with doing one-off shows… for example, we did the Royal Albert Hall the first time when we did all of ‘Dazzle Ships’ + ‘Architecture & Morality’, we lost money on that because so much work went into rehearsals. Normally when we tour, we’ve got a memory bank of songs that are in there, so we just play them once and we remember that. But when you have to go back and dig deep into your catalogue, you’ve got to do a lot of rehearsing. I like the idea is the short answer but it would have to make sense financially because otherwise, there’s so much time rehearsing which means crew, rehearsal venue hire etc, it’s not worth it, that’s the sad thing. What did PET SHOP BOYS charge?

£100 per ticket in the Electric Ballroom, 1000 capacity…

OK, yeah! That’s still a lot of money! *laughs*

Fair play to them… I mean, 5000 people came from all over the world to come see us play ‘Dazzle Ships’ at the Royal Albert Hall… we’ll think about it! 😉

The thing that’s on the horizon is we’re hoping to play with the Liverpool Philharmonic next year and we are looking towards 2028 for a MASSIVE tour because it’s our 50th Anniversary would you believe?!? Although that might start at the end of 2027 just to get it all in! It’s going to be a huge undertaking!!


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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
1st May 2026

HUE & CRY Interview

HUE & CRY may be best known for their sophistipop hits ‘Labour Of Love’, Ordinary Angel’, ‘Looking For Linda’ and ‘Violently’ but for their new album ‘Everybody’, they have surprised all by expanding their sonic palette and going “electro”.

Finding success of the wave of soul jazz tinged acts making use of modern music technology such as JOHNNY HATES JAZZ, BLACK and PREFAB SPROUT, the transition therefore is perhaps not as surprising as first thought. Formed by brothers Pat and Greg Kane, HUE & CRY have used DeepMind arpeggiators, hydrasynths, wavetables and classic drum machines accompanied by future-facing lyrical subjects for ‘Everybody’.

Exemplified by the first single ‘Stronger’ with its message of resilience and hope, the Kanes certainly cannot be accused of replicating their past. As well as electronic pop, the album also features experiments in related sub-genres like Latin House and Future Disco but the biggest surprise is the frantic Germanic thrust of ‘Everybody Deserves To Be Loved’.

The songs on ‘Everybody’ confront powerlessness, polarisation, climate change, authoritarianism and technological overreach, while also championing active love as a counterforce. A true labour of love, Pat and Greg Kane chatted to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about why ‘Everybody’ matters…

 

Nearly 40 years after the breakthrough banger ‘Labour Of Love’, having already experimented with folk, latin, country, jazz, drum ‘n’ bass and acoustic along the way, Hue & Cry have gone “electro”, what has prompted this new direction?

Greg: My brother Pat was pushing for this. I knew a bit about synthesizers, but I hadn’t been that hands on with them. I found out that I actually knew very little about them. But I researched. Using podcasts like Sonictalk, Why we bleep, Data Cult Audio etc, I chose synths that resonated with me. We built an arsenal of over 20 synths, Moog, Roland, Arturia, Dreadbox, Berhinger, Korg and I set about learning and studying. It was a long slog, but I got good enough that we could write songs with them.

Pat: We’ve always been a little bit electro–composing demos on computers, being excited by the latest synth sounds. I was an addict of John Peel’s radio show, and I remember being fascinated by the harsh hypnoticness of CABARET VOLTAIRE, DAF, Thomas Leer, which lead me on a pathway to the first few albums of SIMPLE MINDS, particularly the track ‘I Travel’.

Were there any particular acts using synths that you particularly enjoyed or admired?

Greg: I always liked THE HUMAN LEAGUE, but during my research I was drawn to acts like Surgeon, Clark, Colin Benders.

Pat: In recent years, I’ve loved what bands like BONOBO and DISCLOSURE do with EDM – all the rhythmic twists and tricks of dance, but a real chordal depth and even jazz sensibility to their music. But I’ve also come to reappreciate SCRITTI POLITTI and THE HUMAN LEAGUE – outrageously catchy and deeply moving songs, but sounding like they come out of a few square black boxes.

Traditional singer-songwriters like Neil Young, Paul McCartney and Leonard Cohen have gone “electro” before with varying levels of success in the past, while Lloyd Cole has successfully made the transition with his recent albums ‘Guesswork’ and ‘On Pain’, did you feel the artistic challenge was a risk worth taking?

Greg: Yes, I have followed Lloyd Cole on his Patreon site for a while (I didn’t move to Substack with him). He is more drawn to modular than me, but I like the stuff he produces. The sonic palette that our synths provided really excited us. I did not use a computer when we were writing with them. The machines kinda lead us. It was chaotic at times, many times, but they inspired us to write in ways we hadn’t before.

Pat: Totally. I love the way an arpeggiator or Moog simulator just throws out a musical part of such elemental power, and the best that we can do as songwriters – which is what we are – is to hang on tight, and see where the ride takes us. A few years ago, I listened to the NASA sound library, which has clips of sonic renditions of deep space phenomena – quasars and pulsars, background radiation, black holes, etc. Truth be told, the universe at its basic level sounds like Giorgio Moroder! Just to annoy people, we’ve taken to say that what we’re now playing is the ultimate folk music – you can’t get more “rootsy”, gritty, elemental or ground-level than a Hydrosynth working on a wave-form.

As a duo, has the songwriting and demo process always been technology-based before?

Pat: Yes, my dear bro Greg can give you a rich history of the tech we’ve used over the years.

Greg: In the 80s, our demo writing had elements of technology, mostly drum machines, but I remember using a Roland MC-500 for sequences at times. But over the last 20 years we’ve mostly written around a piano.

What have been the tools and tech which you have been using to realise and perform this new sound?

Greg: The live set-up to perform these new electro songs was a bit of a head scratcher for me. I didn’t want to load it all into Albeton and just hit the space bar. I wanted to create the chaos live on stage in front of audience, be able to adapt to different venues. I use my trusty Nord Grand piano live and the music stand with is wide enough to accommodate some synths. I thought about loading it with Volcas, but gigs are dark environments and the Volcas are small… so I stuck my Roland TR-8s on the stand and augmented that with an iPad Pro running the Loopy Pro App. That worked great in our studio, but iPads don’t like hot sweaty gig environments, so it wasn’t stable. So I looked at the Roland MC-707 to take over from the iPad. It was a steep learning curve, but I got there.

So my current live setup is:
NORD Grand stage piano
Roland TR-8s
Roland MC-707
Electro Harmonix Voice Box

Pat: Again, I defer to Greg here. But I have marvelled at the way Greg has wrangled with scores of specific devices and sound generators in the process of making ‘Everybody’ – often misunderstanding them, but thereby producing some unexpected weirdness (or sweetness) in the process. I’m an intuitive, non-technical musician – but I know what makes me surge. And Greg has the mastery to make that surge real.

The ‘Everybody’ album has a rawer aesthetic with stranger things like vintage drum machines and squelchy textures when compared to the more sophisticated pop usually associated with HUE & CRY?

Pat: That was deliberate!

Greg: Yes, our synths and drum machines were allowed to veer off. I’m glad you can hear that. We kept as much of the initial chaos when we first wrote the tunes on the final mixes.

‘Stronger’ is a self-explanatory opening statement, what was its genesis?

Greg: Musically I was exploring complex bass sequences and atonal arps with sweeping resonances. They had a tension that really influenced how the song took shape.

‘Everybody Deserves To Be Loved’ is very rhythmically Motorik which will surprise people, what brought this energy about?

Greg: I’d not heard the phrase ‘Motorik’ before. And I guess this song does adhere to this. Its tempo is 194bpm! I introduced Pat to the Moog DFAM. He immediately took to it and started tweaking it. I left him for 15mins and I came back to him dancing round the room to the Motorik beat he had managed to create with it. It was so fast I just started playing 1/8 note pedals on a bass sound on the Moog Subsequent 37… as a kinda playful reaction to this beat, but it worked!

Did your soul sensibilities make it more natural to adapt to the more house-based material like ‘Make My Day’ and ‘And Then You Bloom’?

Greg: Yes I hear lots of latin influences in house music, so it’s easy for me to get off on EDM. I still reach for mid 90s Jeff Mills stuff when I down tools. The more I studied EDM, the more I realised the precision they go into when it comes to grooves, I like that. But I come from a more “loose” jazz place, so I guess ‘Make My Day’ and ‘And Then You Bloom’ are a mixture of both.

The synth bassline of ‘In Our Ruins’ sounds like it was inspired by the comparatively obscure DALEK I LOVE YOU track called ‘Two Chameleons’ which OMD used to cover live in their earlier days, was this intentional or pure coincidence?

Greg: Just pure coincidence. Again I was experimenting with complex bass sequences, this one does not start on the downbeat, but on the AND of ONE. It does not deviate from its form for the whole duration of the song, so sometimes it seems out of sync, but it’s not. I had to change the odd note for the clashes not to be too jarring, but I get great joy form listening to that bassline cause havoc throughout the song. A fave of mine.

There is this PET SHOP BOYS vibe to ‘Kinda Blue, Kinda Love’, so had they been an influence on this album?

Greg: I wouldn’t say they were an influence, but I do like them. It was the simplicity of the their early productions in the 80s I was most drawn too. I also like their humour.

‘Force Majeure’ has this uplifting musical backdrop but is there something darker going on lyrically?

Greg: I liked when Pat brought this lyric into the room. I had never heard the phrase ‘Force Majeure’ before and I enjoyed hearing his explanation. That really did inspire how the music was formed.

‘Broken Gods’ utilises these cutting and detuned synth sounds to close the album, how do you think your usual fanbase will take to these more avant sonics?

Greg: ‘Broken Gods’ was my fave song for ages whilst the album took shape. It’s hard to play live, but when we get it right, it’s so right. We are blessed to have enough fans that are as musically adventurous as us. They’ve hung about for over 40 years, so guess they know what to expect (or not). We built our Patreon site a couple of years ago, the fans on there can go pretty avant sometimes. We’re all in this together I guess.

Which are your own favourite tracks on the new album?

Greg: For me it is between ‘In Our Ruins’ and ‘Force Majeure’. ‘In Our Ruins’ for its quirky popness and nod to 70s synth TV theme tunes. ‘Force Majeure’ for its beat and pulse… I love its poise and the chord change to the bridge… and the chromatic resolve at the end of the chorus, which is a nod to early 80s PET SHOP BOYS I guess. The synth sounds made me do it! 🙂

Have you rearranged the older songs like ‘Labour Of Love’, ‘Ordinary Angel’ or ‘Looking For Linda’ to be more electro for your live shows, or would that be a step too far?

Greg: We have. But in a simpler, songwriter way. Pat is pushing me to go further with them though. I’m looking into it.

What would be your pitch to those reading who perhaps have not been into HUE & CRY before, to give the ‘Everybody’ album a try?

Greg: ‘Everybody’ is a synth album made by 2 musicians who have enjoyed successful careers in music for over 40 years. We are drawn to the avant-garde, but succumb to soaring melodies and head bopping grooves. Feel the love in EVERYBODY.

What is next for HUE & CRY?

Greg: Positive promo of ‘Everybody’. Get it great live. Go again soon.


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its sincerest thanks to HUE & CRY

Special thanks to Asher Alexander at Republic Media

‘Everybody’ is released on 29th May 2026 as a limited-edition ultimate collector’s box set, CD, vinyl LP and digital download

HUE & CRY 2026 live dates include:
Manchester Bridgewater Hall (9th October)*, London, IndigO2 (10 October)*, Cambridge Corn Exchange (11th October)*, Birmingham Symphony Hall (16th October)*, Gateshead ICM Glasshouse Sage 1 (17th October) **, Inverness, Eden Court (22nd October)**, Aberdeen Music Hall (23 October)**, Edinburgh, Usher Hall (24 October)**, Glasgow Royal Concert Hall (30th October)***, Perth Concert Hall (31 October)***

* Co-headline with ROACHFORD
** Special guest: ROACHFORD
*** Special guests: JOHNNY HATES JAZZ

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
21st April 2026

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