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PETER COYLE Interview

Peter Coyle is probably best known as the lead singer of THE LOTUS EATERS, a band which he formed with Jeremy Kelly who had previously been a member of the cult Liverpool trio THE WILD SWANS.

Ged Quinn, another former member of THE WILD SWANS also joined THE LOTUS EATERS while the rhythm section eventually settled with drummer Steve Crease and bassist Michael Dempsey who had been in THE CURE and ASSOCIATES. They were signed by Arista Records but in a coincidental twist, the label also signed CARE, the new project of THE WILD SWANS’ singer Paul Simpson with Ian Broudie who would later find mainstream success as THE LIGHTNING SEEDS.

Their debut single ‘The First Picture of You’ reached No15 in the UK charts and seemed to be a permanent fixture on daytime radio during the Summer of 1983. However a successful follow-up hit proved elusive for THE LOTUS EATERS and the album ‘No Sense of Sin’ released in 1984 stalled at No96.

After the single ‘It Hurts’, THE LOTUS EATERS were no more and Peter Coyle released the solo albums ‘A Slap In The Face for Public Taste’ (1986) and ‘I’d Sacrifice Eight Orgasms With Shirley MacLaine Just to Be There’ (1988). But Coyle found solace in the emergence of rave and club culture to found 8 Productions and the G-Love nightclub, working with a number emerging artists in Liverpool’s dance scene.

While there have been reunions of THE LOTUS EATERS over the years, Peter Coyle has since 2020 been focused on his “Fractal” umbrella.  In March 2026, he released three new tracks ‘Rewind’, ‘My Shadow Self’ and ‘The Interface’, all recorded in his home studio in France. Drawing on his long-standing love of electronic music which perhaps hadn’t been apparent during THE LOTUS EATERS, Coyle’s keeps his songwriting fresh and unmistakably his own while embracing new technology.

With an artful new song ‘The Choice & The Meaning’ just issued, Peter Coyle kindly talked in-depth to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about his career to date and his continuing creative motivations despite being assumed to be a “one hit wonder”….

So how does Peter Coyle Fractal musically differ from just being solo Peter Coyle and how has it evolved?

There is no grand plan — and that’s precisely the point. I’ve had so many different names and projects over the years that even I was losing track of what was what. Fractal became a way of drawing a clear line in the sand.

Musically it’s more uncompromising, more instinctive. It’s not shaped by what might get airplay or approval — it’s shaped entirely by what feels honest and necessary to me in the moment. Other projects have carried certain expectations, certain sounds. Fractal carries none of those. It’s me going for the jugular.

The music that comes out of it has to mean something — to me first, and hopefully to others once it exists. But I’m genuinely not playing the game of being popular or likeable. That freedom changes everything about how the music sounds and feels.

What interested you in pursuing a more explicit electronic direction?

The synthesizer has always been in my soul — right back to Brian Eno and Bowie on ‘Heroes’ and Low, and then TUBEWAY ARMY’s first album. And ‘Being Boiled’ by THE HUMAN LEAGUE is honestly one of the greatest pieces of music ever made. So this isn’t a new direction for me, it’s more like a homecoming.

What people might not realise is that I was heavily involved in dance music back in 1988 — virtually everything we were making then was synth based. So the electronic world and I go back a long way.

I started out in bands where guitar was the predominant force, which I think obscured that side of me for a while. I had a Prophet 5 back in the day — cost a fortune, wouldn’t stay in tune, and honestly it was a beast to operate. I’m not technical by nature. I have no real knowledge of music theory, chords, any of that — I work entirely on feel and instinct, never quite knowing what I’m doing in a conventional sense.

But that’s where technology has been genuinely liberating. Plug-ins have made the synthesizer so much more accessible, and when you’re working alone that matters enormously. And the sound palette available now is just beyond beautiful. I think that’s ultimately why the electronic direction has become so dominant — it suits both how I hear music and how I actually work.

Are you still writing songs traditionally” or has modern tech helped you a lot? What are your preferred tools?

My songwriting has changed enormously — technology has genuinely freed everything up in ways I couldn’t have imagined.

But I want to be honest about what the life of a songwriter actually looks like, because it’s rarely what people imagine. Almost every hour of the day you’re asking yourself where the hell you’re going with this — whether it’s going to work out. The dead ends are scary and relentless. And then somehow, if you persevere, things come together. That bit never changes regardless of the tools you’re using.

What technology has changed is the space in which all that happens. I love everything about it — but I feel strongly that the agency has to come from the soul. The artist has to get out of their own way, lose the ego, lose the desperation to make something stunning. But equally you cannot let the machine do all the heavy lifting — because then it just becomes generic, and life is genuinely too short for that. I’d rather get a job in a bank. Not that they’d employ me — but you get the general picture.

My early days were built around improvising — just throwing myself in and seeing where things went. And now, working with technology, that’s exactly what I still do. I improvise with it, follow where it leads, stay open to accidents and surprises. The tools have changed but that instinct is the same.

In terms of what I actually use — Ableton Live and Pro Tools have been absolute game changers for me. They’ve transformed how I work and what’s possible. But equally important is a kind of awareness I’ve developed — recognising that something throwaway, something you created when you weren’t even trying, or a mistake you almost deleted — can turn out to be the most exciting thing on the session. I’ve learned to listen to those moments rather than dismiss them.

Technology is full of what I’d call tools of love — instruments and possibilities designed to help the musician find themselves and express the image that exists inside them. That’s a beautiful thing when you think about it.

You released a mini-album in 2023 called Phasingwhich featured two collaborations with Martyn Ware on the title track and Out Of His Depth, how did that come about?

I’ve been a big fan of Martyn Ware since day one — since THE HUMAN LEAGUE, since everything that followed. And now I’m lucky enough to call him a friend, which still feels remarkable to me. The boy is a genius. His way of seeing the synthesizer, his understanding of space within sound — it’s a genuinely lovely thing to behold. He never stops, never settles, and he’s a wonderful human being on top of all that. An absolute joy to work with.

The way it came about was relatively simple — I sent him the ideas and e just loved them and shaped them in that beautiful way he has. Martyn was working on the tracks with Chaz Stooke, and together what they brought to the material was something I couldn’t have anticipated. They elevated everything in ways I couldn’t have done alone and I learned so much from the experience.

And that’s one of the key characteristics you notice about truly great musicians like Martyn — they are always on the go, always absorbing something new, always searching for that fresh momentum that seems to emerge out of nowhere. That energy is infectious. Being around it and being trusted with it meant a great deal to me.

The trancey hypnotism of one of your new releases Rewindwill surprise those who may be more used to the more acoustically” spirited songs of THE LOTUS EATERS, how did this song come together? 

I think people who have followed me for a while understand by now that I simply follow my own instincts and do my own thing — I don’t really look over my shoulder at what came before or what might be expected of me.

Rewind actually has a very specific origin — I’ve been asked to perform at the Rewind Festival at Henley on Thames in August 2026, which is incredibly exciting. But beyond the performance itself, the word started living in my head. ‘Rewind’. The way it suggests rewinding time, rewinding sound, rewinding memories. I loved the interplay between all those ideas and what they meant to me personally.

The lyric at the heart of it — “we dreamed we could have it all” — pretty much sums up that genuine joy and excitement we felt back in the day when we were young and invincible. That feeling of boundless possibility. I wanted to capture that honestly rather than sentimentalise it.

And that tension is where the interesting stuff lives for me creatively right now. Bringing the old head into the cutting edge — writing real melodies and meaningful lyrics within a very modern electronic and dance context. It’s not about nostalgia and it’s not about chasing trends — it’s about finding a place where melody and rhythm connect in a fresh and unexpected way rather than retreading old well-travelled terrain. Anyone can do that. I’d rather take the road that feels alive.

The trancey hypnotic quality in ‘Rewind’ wasn’t something I planned — it emerged organically. And those are always the most exciting moments in the studio — when something takes on a life and a feeling entirely of its own.

The Interfaceis full of IDM vibes but what is the song a metaphor for?

It’s a deep song that works on many levels simultaneously — which is exactly how I wanted it.

At its core I think the main theme is about reaching a point in life where you completely lose the urge to fit in and conform. Not that I ever really had that urge particularly — but it becomes even more pronounced as you get older. There’s a liberation in that. Getting on the weird bus, as the lyric says — and genuinely not caring anymore.

The interface itself is a metaphor for all the layers we hide behind in modern life — the masks, the performances, the carefully managed versions of ourselves we present to the world. The polygraph line cuts through all of that — because ultimately the truth always finds a way out. The interface is the flaw. The interface hides it all. But it can’t hide everything forever.

And underneath all of that it comes back to love — it always comes back to love. Without it you become a slave to the sequence, you’re just going through the motions, digging holes full of secrets. That feels very true to me.

What I find exciting about the song sonically is the clash of contexts — it sounds quite melancholic on the surface but the grooves and the sounds lift it and give it these positive, almost euphoric edges. That tension between the emotional content and the musical landscape is what makes songs genuinely interesting to me. The repeated “I I I I I” is so simple but feels incredibly heartfelt in context — sometimes the most naked moments hit the hardest.

Watching this one evolve in the studio was genuinely exciting. I’m learning something new every single day and songs like The Interface are proof of why that process never gets old.

My Shadow Selftakes a real about turn 3 minutes in after starting off all moody?

Even though I say so myself — ‘Shadow Self’ is really something special to me.

The lyrics live in a very sensual, almost dreamlike space — there’s desire and hunger and intimacy running through the whole thing. But it’s not straightforward — nothing I find interesting ever is. The shadow self is that hidden part of you, the part you don’t show the world, the part that perhaps only another person’s love or touch can reach and release. That’s what the song is really about — that moment of complete vulnerability where someone else cracks you open.

It starts off introvert and sexually charged — almost chained down, as you say. There’s a moodiness and a weight to it. And then without any explanation or warning the whole mood shifts and transforms — real freedom just explodes out of the love. That transition at around three minutes isn’t something I planned or engineered — it felt like the only honest place the song could go.

Life and love are messy and constantly changing — life is quantum and wild and free. The song mirrors that completely. There’s an exhilaration and a complete enigma to the whole feel of it that I find endlessly fascinating.

The line ‘I’m not asking for rescue’ feels crucial to me — because it’s not a song about weakness or dependency. It’s about that extraordinary thing that happens between two people when the walls finally come down. “Crack me open with your fingers under the sky of silver release” — that’s as honest and raw as I’ve ever been in a lyric.

And the way the music and textures play around with the words creates whole new fractal worlds — which is exactly what excites me so deeply about working this way. That word fractal keeps coming back for a reason. It’s in everything I do now.

On the spiky YOu ARE not the MeDiA, who or what are you taking aim at?

The song is pretty direct — it’s taking aim at a very specific modern phenomenon that I find genuinely troubling.

In a word — Marxism. But not necessarily in the old traditional sense. What I’m really talking about is this new wave of people with absolute so-called moral clarity who have appointed themselves the arbiters of what can and cannot be said, thought or expressed. When I encounter that mindset it triggers something very visceral in me — it takes me straight back to being a young Catholic boy faced with the same kind of unquestionable dogma and authoritarianism. Different packaging, same controlling impulse.

Authoritarianism is very much back in fashion right now and it frightens me. The idea that private property is the root of all human suffering — that if we just dismantle enough structures and cancel enough voices everything will be fixed — I firmly and completely disagree with that outlook. Human suffering exists because we refuse to genuinely work together and bring out the best in one another. It’s not about ownership — it’s about connection and contribution.

The doublespeak in the lyrics is very deliberate — because that’s exactly how this mindset operates. It presents itself as liberation while practicing the most rigid form of control. It claims to speak for everyone while silencing anyone who disagrees.

And here’s the thing — I don’t care that there are musicians infinitely more talented than me. I cherish that fact. I’m genuinely and eternally grateful for it. It’s a beautiful thing. What matters to me is my contribution to the human story — not my control or manipulation of the narrative. That distinction feels more important than ever right now.

The song needed to be spiky and confrontational — because that’s exactly what the subject matter demands.

One of your other more recent tracks Utopiadoes have one of those euphoric rave-styled backing vocals, courtesy of Kim Shepherd?

‘Utopia’ is in many ways a companion piece to ‘YOu ARE not the MeDiA’— but it approaches the same territory from a more universal and perhaps more sorrowful place. Where that song is confrontational and spiky, ‘Utopia’ is almost a lament.

The central idea is something that feels very real and very urgent to me — that the pursuit of utopia, any utopia, ultimately destroys everything it claims to want to build. Sacred cows everywhere. Ideology and blind loyalty blocking access to genuine human connection and love. Information that was supposed to liberate us has instead put us in chains. We’ve become cogs in a wheel with no humanity and no sanity. That feels like an honest description of where we are right now.

But what makes the song truly special to me is what Kim Shepherd did with it. When I wrote and recorded it I sang it in falsetto and it was deeply melancholic — almost defeated. And then Kim took that same melody and transformed it into something utterly euphoric. The same words, the same notes — and yet an entirely different emotional world. That’s a beautiful alchemy that I genuinely couldn’t have predicted or engineered. It just happened and it’s extraordinary.

The song also came together through a wonderful collaboration with Liam Saunders who created such a brilliant vibe with his bass and synths — and then the brilliant Connor Whyte on guitar added something truly mesmerising to the whole thing. That chemistry that evolves when you bring the right artists together is one of the most exciting things about making music. You create something that none of you could have made alone. It was a wonderful experience and a genuinely beautiful thing to be part of.

What did you find appealing about club music after THE LOTUS EATERS?

Escape. That’s the honest one word answer.

After THE LOTUS EATERS, I needed to keep moving — to stay still would have meant sitting with a personal pain I wasn’t ready to face. I needed salvation and I found it, as I always have, in the love of music itself.

Getting involved in dance music and club culture through our project Eight — where we were creating dance music and running club nights — healed me in ways I’m not sure anything else could have. There was something about that world, that energy, that community, that felt genuinely redemptive.

And the culture itself was just beautiful to be part of. I remember watching lads coming up to the DJ clutching a twelve inch record they were excited about — that image has never left me. That pure uncomplicated love of music with no pretension and no agenda. Just the music and the feeling it gave you.

But the single greatest feeling I have ever experienced in all my time in music — and I mean that — was being in a club when all of a sudden the crowd just erupts. Thousands of people in complete ecstasy. And it’s one of my tunes doing that to them. I will never forget that moment for as long as I live. It was humbling and overwhelming and I am eternally grateful for it. Genuinely one of the greatest highlights of everything I have ever done.

Music heals. It really does. And that period of my life proved it to me beyond any doubt.

Some might be surprised to learn you co-wrote and co-produced the Marina Van-Roy rave pop track Sly One’ which came out on DeConstruction in 1990…  can you remember how you ending up writing for someone else?

The story behind ‘Sly One’ is one of my favourites actually — because it perfectly illustrates how the bad moments can be the key to your best moments. You just have to ride the waves.

I had just submitted a song to Seal — I was completely in love with Adamski’s ‘Killer’, still am. One of the greatest pop tunes ever written and one of the best vocals ever recorded. Full stop. So I wrote something in that world — a song about living in a mad world and not really coping — and sent it off hoping he might cover it. They came back and said it wasn’t happening. I was gutted.

So I walked into the studio, picked up an acoustic guitar and wrote ‘Sly One’. Just like that. Out of that disappointment came something new. And here’s a lovely footnote to that story — Seal subsequently came out with ‘Crazy’, which I absolutely love. Same theme as what I’d sent him, but better expressed. Another brilliant tune. The universe works in mysterious ways.

At that point I had just come off the back of two enormously ambitious projects — the first was actually a triple album called ‘A Slap In The Face For Public Taste’, and the second was called ‘I’d Sacrifice Eight Orgasms With Shirley MacLaine Just To Be There’. As you can probably tell, I was not playing it safe. I had my voice all over both of them and I needed to keep moving, keep things fresh, try something completely different.

So I gave ‘Sly One’ to Marina. And what she did with it was extraordinary. She brought this beautiful vulnerability and atmosphere to the track that completely transformed it — landing it on DeConstruction. Though if I’m honest, Warp Records would have been the natural spiritual home for that record — but that’s another story entirely. Her vocal on that record is truly iconic in my opinion. A song written on an acoustic guitar becoming a rave pop record — that’s a journey I could never have planned and I love that about it.

How do you find the modern method of releasing music via these online singles and doing social media?

To be honest with you I have struggled with that side of things since day one — and I mean day one.

I never liked record companies. The boring offices, the suits, the gatekeepers — none of it ever felt like it had anything to do with music. And the old system could be soul destroying in its own particular ways. I remember releasing club records and DJs would come back saying it was the wrong tempo or not the right genre — and it would genuinely do my head in. You’ve poured your heart into something and someone’s telling you the BPM is slightly off.

The modern system has removed some of those gatekeepers which should feel liberating — and in some ways it does. The ability to just put music out into the world without needing anyone’s permission is genuinely extraordinary when you think about how different it was before.

But the business side of things — the social media, the marketing, the constant content, the algorithms — it’s a massive universe and I neglect it. I’ll be completely honest about that. It’s not ideal and I know it. But you only get one life and I have to make choices about where my energy goes.

My energy goes into the music. My real aspiration — the thing that drives me every single day — is to write a game changing song. That’s it. That’s what gets me up in the morning. Everything else is noise.

And I think that connects back to why I started Peter Coyle Fractal in the first place — this was never about being popular or likeable. It’s about going for the jugular and making music that genuinely matters.

Is the intention to rewind and do it the old fashioned way with a physical long player or has the album sadly had its day in your opinion?

Music is dead. That’s a strong statement but there’s a lot of truth in it — and paradoxically it makes things quite interesting.

The album was an emotional object. A complete emotional experience — like sitting with a poem from beginning to end. It had weight and intention and architecture. And poetry is about as relevant as music now in this TikTok and AI world — which is both a sad and a fascinating thing to contemplate. The modernist existence of making music as we understood it is genuinely over. That era has passed.

As for physical albums specifically — I love what they represented and what they meant. That ritual of holding something, reading the sleeve notes, experiencing the whole journey an artist intended — that was sacred in its own way. Whether that comes back in any meaningful cultural sense I honestly don’t know. What I do know is that I refuse to let that question paralyse me.

Because here’s the choice as I see it — we can be victims of these changes and say “woe is me”, the world has moved on and left us behind. Or we can say no problem. We will deal with it come what may. These are different times and they demand a different response.

And actually at the core of things musicians and music makers are problem solvers. Always have been. We take chaos and emotion and confusion and we turn it into something meaningful and communicable. That skill — that instinct — is needed now more than ever in this deeply problematic and fragmented world. The format may have changed beyond recognition but the human need for what music actually does has never been greater.

So music may be dead in one sense. But in another sense it’s never been more necessary.

When THE LOTUS EATERS formed, did you feel any of tension or rivalry with CARE from THE WILD SWANS ex-members, especially with both acts being signed to Arista?

I’ve spent a large part of my life doing sport — and the greatest thing about sportspeople is that they truly know what it feels like to both lose and win. They assimilate it into their whole way of being. That experience shaped how I see competition fundamentally.

The history here is complex and I won’t pretend otherwise. THE WILD SWANS were the forerunners to THE LOTUS EATERS — and the split that led to the formation of the band involving myself and Jeremy Kelly was bitter and painful for people involved. Paul Simpson has written honestly and extensively about how deeply unhappy he was about that whole period — feeling that his songs and his vision had been taken from him. That’s a real human hurt and I respect that he has expressed it.

But I want to say this clearly — Ian Broudie and Paul Simpson did brilliant things with CARE and I was a genuine fan. ‘Flaming Sword’ is a beautiful track. And life has a wonderful way of weaving things together in unexpected ways — I’ve worked with Ian Broudie on some tracks for THE LIGHTNING SEEDS since then. So it’s all far more complex and interweaved than any simple narrative of rivalry would suggest.

Liverpool was an incredibly intense place and the rivalries were fierce — and actually I think that’s a brilliant thing. That intensity pushes people to get better, to write better songs, to reach further than they might otherwise have done. The city has always had that quality and it has produced extraordinary music because of it.

The only downfall is when it spills over into the personal space. That’s where it becomes pointless and destructive. Because my competition has always been with myself. To try and do my best. To be better than I was yesterday. The Caligula whispering — that Machiavellian desperation to undermine and position and manoeuvre — it’s just not my cup of tea. It never has been. I don’t respond to it because life is genuinely too short and that energy belongs in a tacky soap opera, not in a recording studio.

And at moments like that I always think about James Joyce. He told a friend that he had spent the last eight hours writing a single sentence. Eight hours. One sentence. And his friend asked what was so difficult about it — and Joyce said he knew what order he wanted the words in, he just wasn’t sure about the comma. But what a sentence it was — “the heaventree of stars hung with humid, nightblue fruit.” That is where the focus should always lie. Not in rivalry or politics or positioning. In finding your own heaventree of stars. That’s all that matters.

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‘The First Picture Of You’ was literally everywhere in the summer of 1983, did you figure you had something special when you wrote it?

No — not at all. And that’s probably exactly why I agreed for it to be released.

The honest truth is I wasn’t ready for success. I was a young man who knew that if I wanted to continue as a singer I needed to somehow find the skills to cope in the outside world — but I didn’t really have them. And here’s the thing — I’m not even ready now at 64. It’s genuinely not my vibe. I need my own space. It’s not good for me to be a famous person and I’ve made a kind of peace with that.

As far as celebrity culture goes — I would rather sit down with a glass of prosecco with Mark E Smith and Goya than engage in any of that world. That says everything about where my head is. THE FALL, Francisco Goya — that’s my kind of company. The radical, the visionary, the uncompromising.

But going back to the song itself — I knew I had written something romantic. Something that felt genuine and tender. What I absolutely had no idea about was the context it would land in. I wrote it in the coldest days of December — the middle of winter — so the idea that it would become this iconic summer song that was literally everywhere in 1983 was completely beyond my imagination at the time. There’s something rather beautiful about that — a winter song that became the sound of summer. Sometimes the best things happen when you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing.

The follow-up to ‘The First Picture Of You’ was the wonderful ‘You Don’t Need Someone New’ and is something of an outlier in hindsight, it’s more “synthy” than other tracks by THE LOTUS EATERS and wasn’t included on the album ‘No Sense Of Sin’, what were the reasons for that?

So glad you appreciated it — yes it was our second single and it remains a really interesting piece of work to me. What people might not know is that we actually wanted ‘German Girl’ to be the follow up single — but the record company flatly refused. Those battles between artistic vision and commercial reality were a constant feature of that whole period. ‘You Don’t Need Someone New’ was the compromise — and actually it turned out to be a fascinating record in its own right.

It was a genuine hit in the New York discos which I loved — there’s something wonderful about that. A record that didn’t set the UK charts alight finding its audience in an entirely different world and context. New York in that era was the centre of the musical universe in many ways and knowing that record was being played in those clubs means a great deal to me.

As for why it didn’t make ‘No Sense Of Sin’ — honestly the simplest explanation is the right one. We had too many songs and something had to give. That’s always a painful process. The track was produced by Alan Tarney who is a remarkable figure — he worked with some of the biggest artists of that era and his production instincts were extraordinary. And yes — he absolutely loves his synths. It was at his house that I first encountered the Fairlight CMI synthesizer and sampler in person. I’ll never forget that moment.

The Fairlight cost around seventy thousand pounds — in early 1980s money. Just let that sink in for a moment. It was an absolutely extraordinary and revolutionary piece of technology and seeing it for the first time was like looking at the future. That experience fed directly into my ever deepening love affair with the synthesizer and everything it represents. Alan was a fascinating character and I learned enormously from being around him

What was the story behind German Girl, the opener on No Sense Of Sin, is it autobiographical?

Yes. Completely autobiographical.

Her name was Stephanie Arnold. She is no longer with us sadly — and I want to acknowledge that because she deserves to be remembered. She was a remarkable presence in my life and this song is my testament to that.

She was never actually German — but she had a Louise Brooks haircut. That iconic, severe, utterly beautiful look that Brooks made famous in the classic silent film ‘Pandora’s Box’. There was something about Stephanie that existed in that same world — cinematic, otherworldly, unforgettable.

The whole song was written under the influence of Bertolt Brecht — that sense of heightened reality, of theatre and dream existing simultaneously, of emotion so large it breaks through the conventions of ordinary expression. Brecht understood that sometimes the most honest thing you can do is be completely and unapologetically artificial — because that artifice gets closer to the truth of feeling than straightforward realism ever could.

The song is extremely self-indulgent and doesn’t acknowledge so called reality at all — and I make no apology for that. It exists in another world entirely. Another dream. It is at its heart an insane love song built entirely on daydreams and passion and the kind of feelings that a young man carries for someone who seems to belong to a different and more beautiful universe than the one everyone else inhabits.

The fact that the record company wouldn’t let it be our second single still baffles me. But perhaps some songs are too personal, too singular, too much their own thing to be commercial propositions. ‘German Girl’ is exactly that. And I treasure it.

On your Bandcamp, your self-deprecating bio says you had a hit record in 1984 with a song called first picture of you…”, it did prove to be a hard act to follow, so what is your take on what happened with THE LOTUS EATERS and not being able to sustain momentum?

I love that bio — I think self-awareness is one of the most underrated qualities a musician can have. And yes — ‘The First Picture Of You’ was a genuinely hard act to follow.

It was tough. Genuinely tough. And there was a point where I nearly packed it all in — but not for the reasons people might assume. It wasn’t the lack of commercial success that almost broke me. It was a personal betrayal that cut very deeply. I won’t go into the details here — some things deserve to remain private — but it shook me to my core.

And yet. And yet.

It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. I mean that completely and without any bitterness. Because the lack of commercial success, the not fitting in, the refusal to conform — all of that gave me something that no amount of chart positions could ever have provided. It gave me space. Space to breathe, to explore, to grow, to become the artist I actually wanted to be rather than the one the industry wanted me to be.

Every single conversation we’ve had in this interview traces back to that moment of apparent failure. The Peter Coyle Fractal project, the electronic direction, the uncompromising lyrics, the collaborations, the freedom to write songs that genuinely matter to me — none of that exists without that crossroads.

And so when I think about lying on my deathbed someday — and I think about it with complete equanimity — I can be at peace. Because I gave my music life everything I had. Not everything the industry wanted. Everything I had. That’s enough. That’s more than enough.

The Bandcamp bio will probably stay exactly as it is.

Although THE LOTUS EATERS were pictured as a duo, you were actually a five piece band, in hindsight were too many directions trying to be pulled at once?

Not at all — and actually the reality of THE LOTUS EATERS was quite different from the public image.

Ged — who was one of the original members — was first and foremost a visual artist. He went on to study at Oxford and eventually became a truly world famous artist. If Ged had stayed there would have been three of us in those pictures rather than two. He was extraordinary and his artistic vision was very much part of the early DNA of the band.

Michael and Stephen came later and added their own dimensions to what we were doing. THE LOTUS EATERS were never a simple or straightforward proposition — but I don’t think that was ever the problem.

The truth is we were serious outliers and genuinely ahead of our time — and that’s a difficult place to be in any era but particularly in the early 1980s when the industry wanted things neat and categorisable. We weren’t appreciated in the way we perhaps deserved to be at the time and that didn’t help. History has been kinder to us than the contemporary reception was.

In the end, Jeremy hooked back up with Paul Simpson and THE WILD SWANS — going back to pursue the success and the vision he had always craved. Given everything that had happened between those parties, that was quite a journey in itself.

And as I said before — it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. That phrase keeps coming back because it keeps being true. Every apparent ending in my story has turned out to be a beginning in disguise.

By the time It Hurtscame out in 1985, did you already feel it was time to move on from THE LOTUS EATERS?

Yes — by that point Jeremy had already made his decision. The writing was very much on the wall.

‘It Hurts’ wasn’t a hit at the time which was another blow — although the story has a wonderful footnote. An Italian band later covered it and took it to number one in the Italian charts. So the song found its audience eventually, just not where or when we expected. That feels very on brand for THE LOTUS EATERS somehow.

But looking back now it was a blessing — because there was already a major rift running through everything we were doing. The video for ‘It Hurts’ is actually a perfect illustration of where we were as a partnership at that point.

It was my idea to use Louise Brooks footage — that connection to her world clearly running deep in me, as anyone who knows ‘German Girl’ will understand. The video director asked both Jeremy and I to come up with separate storyboards and said he would choose whichever one he preferred. He chose mine. And that decision enraged and infuriated Jeremy.

So Jeremy made his statement. He played the guitar blindfolded throughout the video. And here’s the thing — looking back now I think it was sheer genius. I am genuinely so glad he did it. Because it is so utterly iconic in its weirdness — one of the great oddities of 1980s pop culture as far as I’m concerned. A moment of creative defiance that accidentally became something completely unforgettable.

There’s a lesson in there somewhere about how the most interesting things often emerge from conflict and tension rather than harmony and agreement. The universe works in mysterious ways and sometimes anger produces beauty.

You continue to perform live at selected events to sing The First Picture Of Youand do some cover versions, how do you choose them? Is there a song you havent done which you would like to cover?

There’s an important distinction to make here — when I do my own concerts, I only perform my own songs, both old and new. That’s nonnegotiable for me. That’s where my heart is.

But when you’re talking about the 80s festivals — yes, I’ll do the occasional cover and I do that out of politeness more than anything else. The audiences at those events are there for a good time and knowing the tune matters to them. So I’ll pull out ‘Ashes To Ashes’ or ‘Solsbury Hill’ from time to time — both songs I genuinely love and respect rather than just obvious crowd pleasers. But if I’m completely honest I would much rather be doing my own material. That’s just the reality of that particular world.

As for a song I’ve never covered but would love to — two tracks keep coming back to me and they couldn’t be more different from each other. ‘Ghosts’ by JAPAN — that extraordinary, skeletal, emotionally devastating piece of music that David Sylvian created. And then on the complete other end of the spectrum — ‘Paranoid’ by BLACK SABBATH. I love that riff, that energy, that vocal, that complete and utter commitment to its own world. I love everything about it. The fact that those two choices seem completely contradictory probably says everything about me as an artist.

The live landscape itself is becoming increasingly difficult for someone in my position. I’m too disparate as an artist and don’t have a conventional fan base in the traditional sense — which makes the whole thing genuinely problematic to navigate. And the broader culture right now isn’t helping. Cost cutting is rampant, venues are struggling and people seem to be retreating into the comfort of the familiar — reverting to the past because the present feels too uncertain and frightening.

I understand that impulse completely. But it does make the space for genuinely new and challenging live music smaller and smaller. And that’s a loss for everyone.

What is next for you?

There’s a lot coming and I’m genuinely excited about all of it.

First up there’s a new song out called ‘The Choice & The Meaning’ — and even that title feels like it connects to everything I’ve been talking about in this interview. The artwork is mine but it’s Andrew at Soft Octopus who really makes it work with his cover design. Andrew has done the last four or five covers for me now and looking at them together they work almost as a series — which was never planned that way at all. It just evolved organically. Another beautiful happy accident. Andrew and I have also made music together previously — a track called ‘You & I’ which is out there on Spotify and everywhere else — and I’m hoping we’ll do more of that soon.

Then in early May, ‘Beachball’ comes out on the BOH Label which I’m really looking forward to people hearing. And in the summer there’s a new album coming with the ESP PROJECT — a genuinely exciting collaboration with Tony Lowe that has been a wonderful creative experience.

And of course there’s the Rewind Festival at Henley-on-Thames in August 2026 — which feels like it’s going to be a very special moment for all sorts of reasons that anyone who has heard the song ‘Rewind’ will understand.

But beyond all the specific releases and dates — the honest answer to what’s next is simply this. As long as I feel like I’m learning something new I will keep making music. That’s the only metric that matters to me. Not the charts, not the algorithms, not the streaming numbers — am I still learning? Am I still growing? Am I still surprising myself?

Right now the answer to all of those questions is yes. And long may that continue.


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its warmest thanks to Peter Coyle

Special thanks to Andrew Dineley at Soft Octopus

The single ‘The Choice & The Meaning’ is released on 3rd April 2026 and available digitally on the usual platforms including Apple Music and Deezer

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
3rd April 2026

ZEUS B HELD & CLAUDIA BRÜCKEN: The 4 Ways To The Blitz Interview

Photo by Steve Schroyder

Paul Simon once sang that there were ’50 Ways To Leave Your Lover’ but for Zeus B Held and Claudia Brücken, there are ‘4 Ways To The Blitz’.

Originally making his name as the keyboard player of psychedelic rock band BIRTH CONTROL between 1973 – 1978, Zeus B Held is the producer, remixer and collaborator who can count GINA X PERFORMANCE, FASHION, DEAD OR ALIVE, ALPHAVILLE, DIE KRUPPS, SIMPLE MINDS, TRANSVISION VAMP, DREAM CONTROL and GURU GURU as well as John Foxx and Gary Numan among his credits.

Meanwhile Claudia Brücken undoubted queen of electronic avant-pop as the lead singer of PROPAGANDA, ACT, ONETWO and xPROPAGANDA as well as an acclaimed solo career and collaborations with Andrew Poppy and Jerome Froese to her name.

While the two Germans had not met until 2025, they came together to present an unofficial ode to The Blitz Club to coincide with an exhibition running at London’s Design Museum. ‘4 Ways To The Blitz’ offers 4 takes on the song ‘Dream Of The Blitz’. Recorded in London, Freiburg and Milano, Zeus B Held found he was bursting with ideas as to how this tune could sound, so created 4 different versions for a standalone release on his own newly inaugurated label Cisum Suez.

Zeus B Held and Claudia Brücken spoke to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about their own ‘Dream Of The Blitz’…

You had not met before making ‘Dream Of The Blitz’, but how did you become aware of the other musically for the first time?

Claudia: I heard the Gina X tracks, cool production and melodies. I especially like the ‘No GDM’ track. It’s amazing that I only found out now that this track was inspired by and dedicated to Quentin Crisp and ‘The Naked Civil Servant’ – when I was in ACT, Thomas Leer and I did a song called ‘Snobbery & Decay’ which came out as a single and we released a 12″ which we named ‘(The Naked Civil) Snobbery & Decay’, it featured Quentin Crisp on the cover artwork.

Zeus: In 1984, I worked with JJ Jeczalik on the fourth Gina X album ‘Yinglish’ – at the same time he worked with Trevor Horn on PROPAGANDA’s first album – that’s when I heard the first time of the band – I remember, for me Claudia was the voice and the face of the project.

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What track is your favourite involving the other?

Zeus: I remember very vividly ‘Dr Mabuse’ and its song / melody, voices und production – and I love Claudia’s voice on ‘Duel’. I listened to it earlier on , it’s a damn Ohrwurm…

Claudia: It’s gotta be ‘No GDM’.

As Germans, how did you become you aware of The Blitz Club, did it remind you of scenes that you were involved in closer to home?

Claudia: Growing up in Düsseldorf, I spent a lot of time in the Ratinger Hof – which in a way was a parallel to The Haçienda in Manchester.

Zeus: Towards the end of the 70s, I got a bit bored with rock music and the typical clichés – so the GINA X PERFORMANCE started as a pure studio project – looking for new expression in sound and melodic approach – I heard the 1st time of The Blitz when EMI Cologne told me that tracks from the ‘Nice Mover’ album were played at this club. That’s when I also heard the name Rusty Egan for the first time.

What particularly influenced ‘Dream Of The Blitz’ musically and lyrically in the compositional process?

Zeus: Claudia and I spent some time of mutual brainstorming via phone – a lot of lyrical and melodic ideas ended up in the bin…

Claudia: Once we started working together in Zeus’ Freiburg studio, the breakthrough came with a mutual musical picture – and melody lines fitting to the words.

How did you filter all the ideas for the various different versions for this release? How would you describe them?

Claudia: When Zeus was doing a few dub mixes, we phoned and he said “pity we didn’t do a recording of you just reading the lyrics “ – well, so I went to work and became the story teller – I overdubbed my voice at my home studio – that became the Poetic Mix.

Zeus: Those were mainly different rhythmic and dynamic approaches – including half-time sections and more experimental outbursts. We also enjoyed changes in the harmonic content in various sections.

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The DREAM CONTROL Mix sees you reunite with Steve Schroyder? What was the concept for this version?

Zeus: Steve paid us a visit in the studio when we were in the middle of chasing a result – guess, he was the first person to hear a sketch of the song. And he also had the pleasure (and pressure) to do a spontaneous photo session of Claudia and me –

Claudia: With the DREAM CONTROL Mix of ‘Dream Of The Blitz’, we tried to give the song a somehow urgent and sequencer based dance flavour. My initial reaction when I heard it was “…it sounds a bit like DEAD OR ALIVE” – in a good way…

Do you each have a favourite version of ‘Dream Of The Blitz’?

Zeus: I love the Poetic Mix – where Claudia recites the words, tells the story and then launches into the singing…

Claudia: I like all of them….!

Will the two of you do any more music together?

Zeus + Claudia: We hope so, we are under no pressure and we’re both looking for the same thing: magic music transporting us and the listeners into new places.


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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
20th March 2026

Vintage Synth Trumps with RICHARD BARBIERI

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Richard Barbieri is best known from his work with JAPAN and PORCUPINE TREE but despite having been a recording artist since 1978, his new studio album ‘Hauntings’ is only the fifth long playing solo release of his long career.

After 5 albums with JAPAN, Richard Barbieri worked with all his former bandmates David Sylvian, Mick Karn and Steve Jansen with a close creative partnership being developed with the later, both as an experimental instrumental duo and in a more song-oriented project called THE DOLPHIN BROTHERS.

There was a brief JAPAN reunion as RAIN TREE CROW in 1991 but when that ended amid acrimony, Jansen, Barbieri and Karn formed JBK, issuing a number of albums on their own Medium Productions label between 1993 and 2001. During that time, the trio were invited to be live musicians to back NO-MAN, the art pop duo comprising of Tim Bowness and Steven Wilson in 1992. Significantly, Barbieri would continue to work with both and joined Wilson’s progressive rock band PORCUPINE TREE in 1993.

Deepening the dark immersion of its predecessor ‘Under A Spell’ from 2021, ‘Hauntings’ sees Barbieri present a diverse double collection influenced by a nostalgia for the past and future, and for things that didn’t happen, with questions as to what is real and what is simulation. Alongside the electronic sound sculptures of Barbieri are a renowned international cast of musicians including Morgan Ågren (drums and percussion), Percy Jones (bass guitar) and Luca Calabrese (trumpet).

Richard Barbieri sat down with ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK for a round of Vintage Synth Trumps to talk about the ideas behind ‘Hauntings’ and his close encounters of the synthesizer kind…

The first card is the ARP 2600, does that trigger any thoughts?

I did have a go at one in the studio when we were making JAPAN’s second album ‘Obscure Alternatives’. That was probably just before I got my own modular, the Roland System 700 Lab series. The ARP 2600 had a similar kind of layout, semi-modular… I used it on a track called ‘Deviation’, some kind of noise and sequency thing! I was well fascinated by it but it always looked quite ugly to me and still does… I don’t know why but I’m still not drawn to the look of it. It’s not clear, you’ve got all these faders and things, but it doesn’t tell you exactly what’s going on. I don’t warm to it. I think Steven Wilson of PORCUPINE TREE got a reproduction one…

Of course, the ARP 2600 has got an amazing history to it, it’s on so many records but those metal sliders and the way it was laid out didn’t draw me in…

Deviating slightly, you mentioned when we last spoke in 2017 that your Oberheim OB-X disappeared back in the day… did you ever think about replacing your OB-X with something like the XPander or newer editions of like the OB-X-8 or copies such as the UB-Xa by Behringer?

The OB-X was too much in the ball park of the Prophet 5 to be honest… to me, they are fairly similar. Yes, the OB-X has that slightly thicker sound, it’s a bit warmer but in terms of having a polyphonic synth, I’m happy enough with the Prophet.

Artistically, did losing the OB-X end up being a positive in that you had to investigate a new instrument and using different techniques?

Yeah, it breaks my heart now losing stuff, especially my Wurlitzer electric piano, I don’t know what happened to that! But in those days, there wasn’t this emotional attachment to the instruments, they were tools, there to do a job. You would give away a synth to someone or let them borrow it. So it was very much wanting the technology of the times and it was more about what it could do for you than actually fetishising over it! But now, it’s all nostalgic, it’s all about the feelings and emotions.

Next card and it’s an EDP Wasp Deluxe… did you ever consider this as a possible purchase before you acquired the MicroMoog?

No, it never was… I know people who speak lovingly about the Wasp… are they the ones with the touch sensitive keyboard?

The Deluxe had a proper keyboard but the standard one had this touch sensitive strip…

I was more drawn to the Moog name and the MicroMoog was the cheapest one. In hindsight, I’m glad I got that and not a Minimoog because it’s got a lot more programming possibilities and more routing. I love it! *laughs*

Your new record is called ‘Hauntings’ and your previous one was called ‘Under A Spell’, what has brought you musically into the supernatural world?

Lockdown started that whole thing of introspection and thinking a lot about things. It meant we couldn’t go out and do much, so everything became internalised. Also my age, it’s the age when you start thinking about your life, where you are and how you’ve got to this point. It brought all these new feelings into my mind which were haunting me. I’ve called them ‘Hauntings’ but they are feelings of nostalgia, things from the past and things that didn’t happen. When you have very vivid dreams, you have recurring dreams, you go to places you’ve never really been to in real life and there’s people you’ve never really met but they’re very real to you in that moment.

So it was playing around with that reality and how much can you bend the two realities… are we part of some simulation where it’s possible that other realities exist in a parallel dimension? I was getting all kind of heavy with that and there was also this nostalgia for the future, for a future that might not happen. So it was quite intense feelings that were influencing this music.

How did the opening ‘Hauntings’ track ‘Snakes & Ladders’ develop?

Funnily enough, that track is not built on any particular concept or feeling or nostalgia, it has a definite musical theme to it. I gave it the title because to me, when you listen to it, it’s a lot of crescendos and falls. Trying to visualise the track, it looked to me like a ‘Snakes & Ladders’ board where you’re getting these musical ascending parts and then suddenly there’s this drop and you fall down the ladder or slide down the snake. So that was a very vivid thing of rise and fall. There’s a slight time travelling concept in there as well, so you could look at it falling into different time lapses.

You mentioned this sort of “imagined nostalgia” and “imagined future” but also real nostalgia and haunting stuff, it made me think of when you did the telephone ring on ‘The Tenant’… it’s imitating a telephone ring but it’s not what a telephone ring sounds like… is this part of the subconscious nostalgia creeping in?

It’s a sound design thing, this album has more sound design than any other album that I’ve made. The specific thing you’re talking about on ‘The Tenant’ was my interpretation, in fact a very good copy, of the Tannoy signal that they used to have at Charles De Gaulle Airport… so every time there was an announcement, you would have this little rise and fall of these electronic digital notes. I did it with a Polymoog where you have a slider to slide through an octave thing. I just did that to recreate this sound that fascinated me.

But on this new album, there’s a lot of sound design, like on ‘Victorian Wraith’ and ‘1890’, they are based in the Victorian era. ‘Victorian Wraith’ is a recollection of a child I used to see, I used to see apparitions in my room, maybe many children do… and suddenly you stop seeing them. Your parents say you’ve had a fever but I could see these ghosts walking around my room although I wasn’t scared. They were wearing this Victorian attire, it was a very vivid image so that influenced ‘Victorian Wraith’.

The other track ‘1890’ is a sound design piece around that time, that’s one of my recurring dreams which I go back to, it’s obviously from that Victorian era in London and there’s lot of fog and mist, it’s got a dark grainy atmosphere and it’s all connected around the river near Big Ben and the Houses Of Westminster. I got a sample of the very first chimes of Big Ben from 1890, it was made on a wax cylinder or something and I’ve got an announcement on the radio of those first chimes, I put that in as well as a lot of old radio broadcasts that I had coming and going. That, mixed with a storm recording I had of really heavy rain and thunderstorms, really worked perfectly together. It just created this whole thing that I go though in my dreams. I managed to provide a sound version of what I visualise.

Another card and it’s the ARP Axxe… you used to use an ARP Solina didn’t you?

Yes I did, and an ARP Omni… David and I used the ARP Omni, it had a lovely sound, there’s a voicey choir sound that worked really well. The ARP Axxe? No, that would have been a choice at the time, did you go ARP or did you go Moog? So there was the choice between the ARP Odyssey or the Minimoog. Because I went the Moog route, that was my monosynth and it wasn’t a time where you could just easily afford to go through all the stuff.

Photo by Steve Jansen

You’re known for “mixing your own colours”, how did you become more interested in sound design as opposed to just being a “keyboard player”?

Well! It was not being able to play keyboards very well! *laughs*

I think you do yourself down, you can play a lot better than you make out… *laughs*

I think there’s been periods where I wasn’t too bad for a while but I think now I’m on the decline! *laughs*

Was getting into sound design like an Eno-inspired thing?

Yeah, Brian Eno showed the way that you could use abstract sound and put that in the context of pop music…

There’s a track on the album called ‘Reveille’ which is very ‘Another Green World’, was that a conscious intent?

I’ll take that as a compliment, that particular track is just 2 channels, a stereo live recording of this new synth I’ve been playing with of late, the Solar 42f. It’s a drone synth…well, it’s more than that but it’s quite incredible really. I can’t compare it to much, it’s just something all out there on its own. But you can get a lot of things going on at the same time. I just got this little thing going and it created this sound world, it reminded me of the sun coming up. Sometimes, the real simple minimal things are the best.

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The ‘Hauntings’ album is not just minimal things, there is some quite boisterous and uptempo stuff like ‘Anemoia’ which is playing with drum ‘n’ bass rhythms?

Yes, it is and it did have an original drum ‘n’ bass programmed pattern throughout but I really wanted a drummer to be playing it. There was a Swedish drummer who I was looking at for a long time, Morgan Ågren who although he’s a very technically gifted rock jazz player, he also has a sensibility towards electronic music. I could tell with his videos and all these little things he was doing to create his percussive sound worlds, it was really interesting to me.

So I thought it would be great to have a drummer playing a drum ‘n’ bass pattern, to give it that feeling and when it goes into that second section of the track, that’s a combination of the drummer then reverting to percussion and the electronic drum ‘n’ bass programme kit coming through more strongly. I think that worked well.

How did you become interested in drum ‘n’ bass?

I liked SQUAREPUSHER and APHEX TWIN, I also liked that quite extreme Jungle drum ‘n’ bass but I also played a lot with a band called THE BAYS, an improvisational band led by Andy Gangadeen, he’s the drummer with CHASE & STATUS. He’s very into drum ‘n’ bass and electronic rhythms, he has an electronic kit and vibes off all kinds of loops and stuff. So I did a lot of live shows with them, it’s was all improvised dance music, Jungle drum ‘n’ bass with a little bit of techno.

You mentioned you worked with a Swedish drummer, you’ve worked with a Swedish saxophonist Lisen Rylander Löve and your first album production was a Swedish band LUSTANS LAKEJER on their 1982 album ‘En Plats I Solen’. You did a tour in 2017 with them performing that album…

It was the 35th anniversary of ‘En Plats I Solen’, we’d always been in touch anyway, I’d seen some of the LUSTANS LAKEJER guys over the years and it seemed like a great idea to go out and play that album, they thought “let’s go and invite the producer”…

Although you didn’t produce the pre-album single ‘Diamanter’, it was the track that won you over to take the producer role and you got to perform that buzzy solo live…

Yes, it was a different one each night, basically it was noise solo and some nights, I would just lean on the keyboard with my elbow, twist a few knobs and just have a drink! *laughs*

That was fun, I love those guys… what I love about them is that they SO 80s, they haven’t tried to update or reimagine themselves at all, they’re strictly 80s! They slap on all the make up before they go on stage, all the synths playing the right sounds from that era and it’s great!

I actually got to see LUSTANS LAKEJER in Malmö near the end of 2019 and they’ve got this new late teen fanbase who go to gigs dressed like front man Johan Kinde from that era…

Yeah! *laughs*

The next card is a Yamaha CS-60… have you flirted with Yamaha equipment before?

Yes, I played a CS-80 and a CS-60, , I’d put them in the Top 5 of synths of all time, so lovely. It was in a studio in Sweden, a guy who collects a lot of vintage stuff and they couldn’t get me away from them! So beautiful and very expressive, just different… they’re a world of their own. I’ve never owned either one unfortunately, I wish I did. If I could, I would love to get one of those. But the Yamaha I do own is a CS-01… and that sounds amazing! *laughs*

So Steven Wilson’s never hired a CS-80 for you to use in PORCUPINE TREE?

Actually, that’s not a bad idea! Of course, there is good emulation available!

John Foxx has done this Vintage Synth Trumps interview format before and he did the photo on the cover of the PORCUPINE TREE album ‘Lightbulb Sun’, do you know how he got involved?

It must have been somebody who knew someone else! It was a case of the photo John Foxx took was actually of his son, and it was exactly right for the title… I wish I knew, you’re gonna have to ask Steven Wilson because I can’t really tie that all together, it’s quite weird.

But as a coincidence, I’ve been working with Steve D’Agostino, he’s just mixed the surround sound for ‘Hauntings’ and I’ve known him a while… so he’s now worked with every member of JAPAN! I was the last one to complete the set! *laughs*

He worked with Mick Karn on DALI’S CAR, he remixed David Sylvian’s ‘Manafon’ in surround and he worked with Steve Jansen and John Foxx on the album ‘A Secret Life’.

It’s all very incestuous isn’t it? *laughs*

Yeah! Amazing! *laughs*

Photo by Steve Jansen

I don’t know if you have been misquoted but you once remarked that the YELLOW MAGIC ORCHESTRA sounding parts on ‘Tin Drum’ were all David Sylvian while you did the weird interesting stuff, is there any truth in that?

Well, it’s not to say that David’s parts were interesting! *laughs*

A lot of his parts on ‘Tin Drum’, I can hear similarities to the YELLOW MAGIC ORCHESTRA album ‘Technodelic’; what’s weird about that is that both albums were released at the same time so it’s almost by osmosis, this exchange of ideas and influence that went on at that time. I would say my sounds were probably a bit more off-the-wall and possibly a bit stranger…

Haunting? *laughs*

Haunting, there you go! Yeah! *laughs*

The next card is the Roland Juno 106?

I’m very associated with Roland, but I didn’t have any of the early Jupiter or Juno series, anything like that. I’ve got the big Roland System 700 and I used the Space Echos, all that kind of stuff. But it wasn’t until later with the V-Synth that I really got involved with Roland again. Before that, there was the D-50, David Sylvian and I used D-50s for the ‘In Praise Of Shamans’ tour in 1988. He did some great D-50 stuff on a track called ‘Pop Song’, all that weird scale-straight micro tuning stuff going on in the background. I used the D-50 until quite recently, but the V-Synth all the time.

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On ‘Pushing The River’ by THE DOLPHIN BROTHERS, there were those synthetic brass bursts, was that sound design or sampling?

It was a pattern that I came up with on a Casio SK-1!! It sounded like an EARTH WIND & FIRE or Phil Collins type of brass section and we decided to go with that. I think we might have used a bit of the original sound as well. Sometimes, these sorts of things, you just sample something and it’s just got a melody that’s gonna work. These Casio lo-fi samplers are very collectable now! *laughs*

Ah, next card is a Polymoog which I know you’ve used a few times…

Yeah! I used it in that interim period between ‘Obscure Alternatives’ and ‘Quite Life’ where I didn’t really have an established set-up as such. At the beginning, I had the Wurlitzer piano, the MicroMoog and the Solina string synth as well. Then I got the System 700 which did all the abstract and sequencer-driven stuff. I didn’t have a set-up until we came to ‘Quiet Life’ so at the time, when you walked into studios, there was always stuff around, they had all kinds of kit there or you could hire stuff in.

There was a Polymoog and I started to use it a lot during that period. It was very user friendly, it was quite inspirational, you could get interesting things going quite quickly. I do like the Moog stuff a lot, it’s not accurate, it’s not forensic. The Prophet is forensic in that the filter is so musical and you can make such tiny incremental moves on it to obtain real interesting tones. The Moog is just a big thick thing, the filter just opens and closes, you lose all the bass in it when you open it. But it’s this huge textural sound which I’ve always quite liked. I’m thinking of getting this new Moog called the Muse, it’s a new 8 voice polysynth, it’s like the be-all-and-end-all of Moog products, I think it’s amazing.

You did the JAPAN track ‘Life Without Buildings’ as JBK with Steven Wilson live in 1997, what made you pick that one?

Well, mainly because it was instrumental! There’s only a little bit of vocals in the middle which we knew the audience would sing! *laughs*

It just made sense, it would have been odd to do a JAPAN song with somebody else singing, especially if me, Steve and Mick were up there. It’s such a great track and went down so well live, it was epic and immense. We had Theo Travis on flute and saxophones, Steven Wilson was doing the melodic parts, it was great! I wish we’d done more of those shows really, it was a good band.

What’s next, are you playing live with this new album or going onto your next recorded work?

I think I’m going to promote it with listening events, that I think is a nice way to get people involved, do some informal gatherings, we can do some nice studio surrounds for playback as it’s in Dolby Atmos or some intimate vinyl lounge playbacks, maybe get someone to interview me and do a Q&A with the audience. People like to come to that as much as a gig sometimes.


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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
11th March 2026

KARL BARTOS Interview

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Karl Bartos needs no introduction to electronic music aficionados as a member of the classic KRAFTWERK line-up; he co-wrote acknowledged electronic classics such as ‘The Model’, ‘The Robots’, ‘Neon Lights’, ‘Computer World’, ‘Numbers’, ‘Computer Love’, ‘Tour De France’ and ‘The Telephone Call’.

Born in 1952, Karl Bartos studied at the Robert Schumann Conservatory in Düsseldorf before joining KRAFTWERK for their US tour in 1975 after the success of ‘Autobahn’; working alongside Ralf Hütter, Florian Schneider and Wolfgang Flür, he featured on the pioneering albums ‘Radio-Activity’, ‘Trans-Europe Express’, ‘The Man Machine’, ‘Computer World’ and ‘Electric Café’.

As well as playing the iconic elektronisches schlagzeug pads first widely seen in the UK on the BBC show ‘Tomorrow’s World’, Bartos also used other customised electronic instruments such as the Vibrolux electronic vibraphone and the Triggersumme percussion sequencer.

Leaving KRAFTWERK after years of work on ‘The Mix’ for which he was not credited, he formed ELEKTRIC MUSIC, releasing the album ‘Esperanto’ in 1993 which featured the original version of the brilliant ‘Kissing The Machine’ with Andy McCluskey on lead vocals that was later included in reworked form on the 2013 OMD album ‘English Electric’.

Collaborations with Bernard Sumner and Johnny Marr for the ELECTRONIC album ‘Raise The Pressure’ and a psychedelic rock-infused number ‘The Moon & The Sun’ with OMD for their more conventional ‘Universal’ long player followed in 1996; the various influences from these British sojourns led to the 1998 six string driven ‘Electric Music’ album which Bartos would describe as “guitar pop out of the computer”.

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But Bartos would return to electronics for his debut solo album proper ‘Communication’ in 2003. He acted as a guest professor in Auditory Media Design at the Berlin University of the Arts between 2004 to 2009 before formulating his second solo album ‘Off The Record’ which came out in 2013. His most recent music project has been a present day soundtrack to ‘The Cabinet of Dr Caligari’, the 1920 German Expressionist silent horror film directed by Robert Wiene.

His autobiography ‘The Sound Of The Machine – My Life in KRAFTWERK & Beyond’ was published in English in 2022 by Omnibus Press and among the interesting factoids contained within was that the inspiration for the ‘Numbers’ beat was a Cliff Richard recording called ‘Do You Want To Dance?’; almost everything about the creative process at Kling Klang from an eyewitness point of view was contained in this book.

With a remastered version of ‘The Sound Of The Machine’ recently published with a new foreword by music academic Dr Leah Kardos, Karl Bartos kindly entertained a career spanning chat with ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK

You have published a remastered edition of your book ‘The Sound Of The Machine’, are there any specific differences with this new version. How was it to write, from the original German transcript through to translation into English?

After the book’s publication in Germany, I began revising the text with the English translation in mind. Many sections had been cut and I’ve now reinserted them elsewhere. Meanwhile, I had also analysed my time with KRAFTWERK and, for example, added the paragraph ‘Progress as a Shining Promise’ to Chapter 16. Digitisation was one of the decisive reasons for the end of our creative community.

When we then worked on the translation with the fantastic Katy Derbyshire, several other things came to light that I had noticed in the other language. And my magnificent editor, David Buckley, brought another expertise. It wasn’t really work for me, but rather very educational and a great pleasure. Yes, I’m happy with Omnibus Press’ remastered edition. And, of course, I love the profound foreword. Dankeschön, Leah Kardos.

You are still performing your contemporary soundtrack to ‘The Cabinet of Dr Caligari’ live, what fascinated you about this film and how did you find composing to moving images and a storyline?

The industry of killing machines was invented then. For the first time, a war was fought with modern weapons: machine guns, tanks, airplanes, flamethrowers, chemical weapons, and much more – everything that scientists had developed. The film reflected the horrors of World War I. It was a sensation at its premiere in Berlin in 1920. It was considered a new art form. Reproducible – made for the masses. The new medium of film combined the expressionist worldview with psychoanalysis and the mystical ghost world of Romanticism.

Composing functional music was an enriching experience. But I didn’t just compose music, but also integrated all the sounds of the narrative world into the music. That’s why my partner, sound director Mathias Black, and I called it narrative film music.

Your debut solo album ‘Communication’ was reissued in 2025 by Bureau B, but it sort of got lost when it was first released in 2003. How was the reception to it 22 years later on its now prescient themes?

Yes, I’ve been living with this album for a while now. I can’t say much about the reactions to the reissue yet. A friend from England wrote to me that it’s difficult to determine the order of my music releases anyway. The events of September 11th deeply shook me at the time, and I wanted to focus on the power of images.

How do you look back on the making of 2013’s ‘Off The Record’ and how it brought some of your past into the present? Are there any more “secret acoustic diary” entries that can be developed?

During my professorship at the Berlin University of the Arts, the idea for an autobiography gradually matured. My pocket diaries, scores, and audio diary were all kept close together. Yes, I often write things down. Perhaps because I want to know how I think.

‘Ohm Sweet Ohm’ remains an underrated classic, it is very emotional and human in its realisation with your “knitting needle schlagzeug” being among the key components, how did your pop mind and classical training take to this new technology and sound when in the studio for the ‘Radio-Activity’ album?

The 1970s were a decade of avant-garde music. And Düsseldorf was an artistic centre for all directions of the avant-garde. As a student, one was very involved in experimentation. Compositions for percussion generated quite a lot of buzz. Steve Reich played at the Kunsthalle in Düsseldorf in the early 1970s. That was an enlightening experience. I also studied Stockhausen’s ‘Zyklus for a Percussionist’ and, with the percussion ensemble, Carlos Chávez’s ‘Toccata for Percussion Instruments’. It was also around that period that I first heard pieces from John Cage’s ‘Imaginary Landscape series’. It was an amazing time, living and learning amidst the sounds of music.

But bear in mind: even in the 60s, THE BEATLES had one foot in the avant-garde of sound art. The recording sessions for ‘Radio-Activity’ were cool and the atmosphere was great. I remember thinking to myself that it was a good mix of pop and avant-garde. That was then.

In today’s capitalist, computerised world, however, many are more concerned with content management than with music. We once imagined this digital world and translated it into music. But yesterday’s future is now the past. Many people love this retro-futurism. That’s fine with me. Nostalgia is very potent. However, nostalgia should not degenerate into retro-perplexity. Because art, by its very nature, enters into a dialogue with the world. And as Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney recently said in a different context in Davos: ‘Nostalgia is not a strategy.’

Before MIDI, you had the customised Vibrolux electronic vibraphone which you used on ‘The Hall Of Mirrors’, how did you find using to it compared to an acoustic one?

It was rather basic, but it could control a synthesizer, and that was the point.

You came up with the bassline of ‘Metropolis’ while the percussion was sequenced for the first time, how do you see your role as a musician changing at the time?

When I was young I‘d played in pop bands and in classical music, for example in modern ensembles and opera. From the beginning, I felt that composing came naturally to me. Since I never saw myself as a drummer in the traditional sense of pop music, I had no reservations about automating the rhythm. I somehow liked the anonymity of a formula. Similar to the bar lines in musical notation, which represent the pulse, it is the framework that holds the music together. After all, we wanted the quantification to aestheticise the logic of the machine. Essentially, I’m an artist who just happens to be a musician.

One of your new tools in the reconfigured Kling Klang for 1981 was the Triggersumme, what was that like to use and what possibilities did it open up?

It involved the automation of a beatbox with the ability to make variations ‘on the fly’. In fact, the synchronization of the analog sequencer and the Triggersumme for controlling percussive sounds was an ingenious unit. The engineer Hajo Wiechers has done an excellent job. Unfortunately, we weren’t aware of how beneficial this technique was for merging our creativity.

Isn’t it strange that after our 1981 world tour, we didn’t perform live again with our classic line-up until 1990. Progress was a shining promise, and our belief in technology clouded our vision. The digital hysteria of those years diverted our attention from people to machines, and the machines, in turn, blocked our view of what we should have been doing. Because up to that point, all our music had been created through the interplay of our creativity. And the creation was supported by a few music boxes.

Our group of artists then became a digital business model. It is really remarkable how many things we’ve experienced as a result of technological progress are now being repeated in information society worldwide. I view the invasion of artificial intelligence with great concern. I’m not afraid of technology, but of people and their intentions.

The ‘Computer World’ tour saw you playing more keyboards but do you have a favourite synthesizer of all time?

I still own two Minimoogs. Yes, this machine was truly brilliantly designed by Mr Bob Moog. I also have a digital plug-in. Most of the time, we end up with distortions in the digital hall of mirrors. But I think the Moog plug-in turned out well too.

What is your favourite drum machine or rhythm unit?

I’m afraid I can’t help you here. I believe the analog sequencer and Triggersumme of Hajo Wiechers had the ability to awaken creativity and be receptive to inspiration.

Digital synthesis and sampling entered the fray on ‘Tour De France’, how did you view these sonic developments?

Every work of art has two faces: one looks to the present, the other to eternity. I believe that we were too focused on the present during this phase. From a top-down perspective: Technology isn’t all that important for the creation of music. We know that with a few colourful building blocks, children can let their creativity run wild. But we can’t imagine life without technology either. The most important inventions for music were notation, the metronome tempered tuning and the circle of fifths, the fortepiano, and sound recording.

But there’s one more! The idea of automating music on a timeline has been around for a very long time. In the past, people used a cylinder to pluck a comb made of metal tongues of different lengths, thus producing sounds. Essentially, this very clever principle has been transferred to the computer. Anyway, what’s important is the emotion that the music contains and can communicate.

How did you come to sing the lead vocal on ‘The Telephone Call’, had you presented it as a complete song?

Yes, I came up with the lyrics and the melody, I seem to remember. That was a long time ago and isn’t so important to me anymore. I’d have to look that up in my autobiography…

Your music has been very influential and in 1992, you were asked to remix ‘Planet Rock’ which appropriated the ‘Numbers’ beat and brought things full circle… what was your reaction when you first heard it in 1982?

I forgot. I’d have to look that up in my autobiography too… meanwhile, the rhythm has been used over and over.

When you started ELEKTRIC MUSIK, you opted not to front it as such and left the lead vocals primarily to Lothar Manteuffel and guest Andy McCluskey, had your first lead vocal with ‘The Telephone Call’ not provided the confidence you needed?

That’s a good question. My main goal was to have a roof over my head. Others could be here too. That’s why I used the name of my music publishing company Electric Music for the band. By mistake it turned out as ELEKTRIC MUSIC. At the time, I wasn’t sure whether I should use my own name for the product. I have been working under my own name for a long time now, like in classical music.

When Andy showed up I gave him a little melody and a few chords, which were called ‘Loreley’ back then, and he turned it into a song ‘Kissing The Machine’. I certainly hadn’t expected lyrics about artificial intelligence in 1993. That was a blast, of course.

And I had written ‘TV’ in 1987, shortly after ‘Electric Café’ / ’Techno Pop’. At that time I was following the work of Marshall McLuhan and Neil Postman because I felt that with ‘Radio-Activity’ we had missed the point regarding the topic of media. And when I finally got the record deal for ELEKTRIC MUSIC, I was forced to write the album in no time at all. Some days I’ve been working 16 hours. The guys where mixing one track at the studio and I was at our place, the Klangwerkstatt, composing / arranging the next song. So Lothar Manteuffel of RHEINGOLD was getting the job to sing ‘TV’. Because I worked overtime to compose and produce the album.

Was the cover of ‘Baby Come Back’ for the NME ‘Ruby Trax’ collection some fun and light relief from your past?

Yes, that’s true. Andy McCluskey suggested the title for our contribution during a dinner at Wolfgang’s place. Emil was there too and Lothar. We had a wonderful time; it was one of those nights.

How true is the legend that you inspired Andy McCluskey to conceive ATOMIC KITTEN?

Oh yeah, I don’t even remember where it was… Düsseldorf, Liverpool, Dublin, Los Angeles? We were just throwing some ideas for the next OMD album into the computer. Andy was in his element, and we tried out a few things that didn’t necessarily sound like OMD. At some point during the session, I asked him if he’d ever written music for other artists. I was thinking of the golden age of songwriting in Tin Pan Alley, or its modern-day counterpart, the Brill Building. I later learned that he’d looked into it. Andy is incredibly talented, but of course, everyone knows that.

You did productions for INFORMATION SOCIETY, THE MOBILE HOMES, VIENNA and FLATZ while among your collaborations were OMD and ELECTRONIC… do you ever wish you did more as a producer? Is there anyone you would have liked to have worked with?

That was a long time ago. The collaborations with Bernard and Johnny, or Andy, were outstanding and completely different.

Today I no longer feel the urge to produce music for other artists. I produce for myself when I compose. For me, nowadays much of the production process revolves around the measurable side of the world. It has a lot to do with technical applications and physics. My mindset is far too abstract for that. I achieve the best results when I play with the elements of music like a child, without any intention or goal. Just for the sake of playing. Sometimes I manage to get into that state…

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An interesting by-product of working with Johnny Marr and Bernard Sumner in ELECTRONIC was you returned to Germany “with a Rickenbacker strapped to your back” which took you into an unexpected direction?

The computer is an extremely powerful production tool. Unfortunately, the device itself, and the digital copy of the world, is very time-consuming. The Silicon Valley people have understood how they can shift a significant part of the work onto the customers. That happens everywhere. There’s a lot of fairy dust being sprinkled around. The business model of digital companies isn’t exactly in love with traditions. However, I’m an artist who feels at home in traditional European culture. We’ll see what the new world order will bring about in terms of art.

That’s why I’m glad I have a few old acoustic instruments in the house. No dirty tech, outdated operating systems, updates, algorithms, feedback loops, AI hallucinations and no looney tech billionaires with their feudal-sounding visions for human kind, the planet and even space.

While working on ‘Caligari’, I composed some of the music for my upcoming electronic album acoustically. As always, it’s primarily about listening, feeling, playing, and thinking. I didn’t record anything for a long time, but made handwritten notes, just like during my musical studies or at Kling Klang Studio. The golden trail, so to speak. That way my subconscious is constantly adding to what’s already there. Or it’s about reducing what’s already been achieved. When I then transfer the music to the computer’s timeline, the musical elements have already developed a life of their own. Music, after all, originates from life.

But of course, I sometimes start with a blank timeline. Ha, the void! I should really write a short piece about creativity sometime. It’s like this: inspiration doesn’t arise when you hope for it, but only during the work itself.

Which are your 5 favourite pieces of your own work?

I’m afraid I can’t answer that question. I don’t know. For me, life in music is like breathing.

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What is next for you?

I hope that one day I will release my next electronic album. A long-cherished wish of mine, the re-recording of ‘Esperanto’ (1993) is also planned. There are so many unheard melodies and musical elements from the early 1990s and before that I would love to come to life.

Will you ever perform your KRAFTWERK co-writes and solo “pop” material live again, as it’s been a while since you’ve done that?

I don’t know yet. Igor Stravinsky once said, in essence, that music is a speculation with sound and time. The live music business is also about speculation – nothing is certain until the tickets are sold.

But my music is constantly being performed live. My former musician friend is touring the world with his show. He seems to be omnipresent. You know, I don’t regret anything. But I also don’t forget anything. And I’m really grateful and happy that people don’t stop listening to our songs. That means a lot to me. I believe our music will outlive us. And that’s not too bad, is it?


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its grateful thanks to Karl Bartos

Special thanks to Sean Newsham at Bureau B and Bettina Michael

The Karl Bartos solo albums ‘Communication’, ‘Off The Record’ and ‘The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari’ are all available via Bureau B at https://www.bureau-b.com/artists/karl-bartos

‘The Sound Of The Machine’ is published as a remastered paperback edition by Ominbus Press

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
25th February 2026

LOCAL SUICIDE Interview

Dina Pascal and her husband Max Brudi are the Berlin based-duo LOCAL SUICIDE who are also two thirds of the disco goth trio DINA SUMMER with Jakob Häglsperger aka Kalipo.

Having issued two acclaimed DINA SUMMER albums ‘Rimini’ and ‘Girls Gang’ as well as an EP ‘Hide & Seek’, Dina and Max returned as LOCAL SUICIDE at the end of 2025 with the ‘Houdini’ EP, their darkest and boldest work yet on their own label Iptamenos Discos.

With their industrialised bass lines, ghostly vintage synths, haunting distorted vocal chants and thumping energy, opening track ‘Obsessions’ bridges darkwave and techno. A collaboration with fellow Berlin resident Skelesys, ‘Submission’ is a declaration of defiance as the call for “Resistance, no submission” runs true in the current political climate. Meanwhile the ‘Houdini’ title song pays homage to the legendary illusionist with an accessible theatrical edge despite the haunting shadowy atmosphere.

Dina and Max chatted to ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK about the return of LOCAL SUICIDE, the creative process of ‘Houdini’ and their plans for the year.

You’ve had busy a few years with DINA SUMMER and Iptamenos Discos, how has it been for you?

Dina: It’s been really busy but also really exciting. We focused a lot on our second DINA SUMMER album, released a lot of music on Iptamenos Discos and toured extensively. It’s been amazing to reach new audiences and see how people connect with the music – we’re very happy with how it’s all turned out.

How did you decide that it was time to make some new LOCAL SUICIDE music?

Dina: We had very few LOCAL SUICIDE releases recently because the DINA SUMMER album took most of our attention and time. We also didn’t want to overwhelm anyone with too many releases under different projects. Production-wise, it’s been a quiet year – touring, day jobs, and album work left little studio time. The tracks on this most recent EP were actually created during the pandemic, but now it felt like the right moment to finally share them with the world.

So when does DINA SUMMER stop and LOCAL SUICIDE begin, how do the creative processes differ? Some might say a track like ‘In Space We Roam’ could be mistaken for DINA SUMMER?

Dina: There are definitely a lot of common points, since we are two thirds of DINA SUMMER. But in DINA SUMMER, Kalipo plays a defining role in shaping the sound, so his influence is obviously a huge part of that project.

Max: DINA SUMMER was initially planned as a regular collaboration like we’ve done countless times over the years but then it quickly turned into a band after we realised that we are very compatible with Kalipo and get along personally very well. Also DINA SUMMER’s sound is generally more accessible and not as raw/rough as most of our LOCAL SUICIDE releases. I think you can hear our distinctive style out of almost all of our 200+ tracks but as our taste changes over the years you will surely hear a musical development as well. Most of the tracks of the first DINA SUMMER album were written inbetween 2019-2021, which is about the same time that our new ‘Houdini’ EP was produced and all songs of the ‘In Space We Roam’ EP as well!

The ‘Houdini’ EP is a much darker proposition than anything you have done recently? Does the title have any wider significance?

Dina: It is darker indeed. The EP was created during the pandemic, when everything felt a bit dystopian. We’ve always enjoyed dark sounds, but during that time it came very naturally. As a child, I was very fascinated by the story of Houdini and always wanted to make a song about him, so the title also comes from that long-standing fascination.

Max: We had written about 8 tracks with Skelesys in the same time period. The more lighter tracks went onto our ‘In Space We Roam’ EP and our LOCAL SUICIDE album and the dark ones are on the ‘Houdini’ EP. We still got two more clubby ones. We’ll probably release those ones next year.

So “The great Houdini, the big escape”? The title track is a bit more accessible but musically, what were the subtle melodies inspired by?

Dina: We draw inspiration from everything around us – our surroundings, life experiences, and of course other artists. The 80s remain a big influence for us, shaping many of the melodic choices and textures.

Max: Not sure what the melodies were inspired by to be honest. I think we added the lyrics after we had the structure and all musical elements were written already. We were looking for a nice pleasant pad for the break to find a contrast as the track was quite aggressive overall and then found this beautiful organ sound on our Roland D50.

Why did you opt for a three track EP as opposed to an album, was this for conceptual reasons or due to time availability constraints?

Dina: The tracks were already half-finished for a few years, and we just needed the time to complete them. With everything else going on, there wasn’t space to make more. But we’re definitely planning to start working on a second LOCAL SUICIDE album next year.

Max: This EP felt like it’s a round bundle as it was, we are still figuring out in which musical direction our next album will be going. We’ve started a lot of nice tracks alone and with old and new friends but are still waiting for a superior topic that excites us enough to fully dive into the matter.

So what are your ‘Obsessions’ right now and how have they contributed to the track’s deep and heavy mantric sound?

Dina: Oh, there are too many to list, and they’re always changing! Sometimes it’s a track I can’t stop listening to – lately I’ve been revisiting ‘Vienna’ by ULTRAVOX. I also keep returning to AIR, who have been a long-time obsession of mine; their music is something I play on repeat whenever I want to relax. I get absorbed by films too. This year I didn’t have much time to watch films, but on a flight I finally watched the new ‘Beetlejuice’ and it was so inspiring – I even found myself watching certain scenes over and over for weeks after, like the wedding sequence. All of these obsessions, whether music, film, or otherwise, naturally feed into the atmosphere and intensity of our music.

‘Submission’ is a collaboration with Skelesys that has this looming percussive tension to it, what was its genesis?

Dina: We’re very close friends with Skelesys and he’s one of our most frequent collaborators. We really love each other’s energy in the studio, so the process is very open – we just let loose and see what happens. With this track, we initially wanted to do a Nine Inch Nails rework just for fun, but it quickly took a completely different direction.

Max: I think this track – just like the two originals on this EP – is showcasing our darkest and most dystopian side with spooky melodies, repetitive hard bass lines and distorted punkish vocals.

There are reworkings from French electroclash pioneer David Carretta of ‘Obessions’ and Alpha Sect from Greece of ‘Submission’; how do you select remixers and do you set them a brief or does that defeat the objective?

Dina: We’ve been huge fans of David Carretta since we started DJing, so receiving such an amazing remix from him feels like a dream come true. We actually got a remix request for his label and asked if he’d be up for an exchange. We also met him a few times over the past years – he’s incredibly sweet, kind and a true musical genius.

Alpha Sect is a very close friend of ours. We met him years ago when he was still living in Thessaloniki, and since I’m from there, we would often see him when visiting family. Nowadays, we catch up in Berlin or Thessaloniki whenever we’re in the same city. We love him as a person and truly believe in his talent. We had already done a remix for him, so this was also a remix exchange.

In general, we don’t give any briefs – the whole point is to let remixers fully interpret the track in their own way.

What is next for you, in whatever guise?

Dina: Next year, we will release more music as DINA SUMMER, tracks that didn’t fit on the album musically, plus some new material. We’re planning an EP that will come out gradually as singles, and we are also part of CURSES’ ‘Next Wave Acid Punx’ with a collaboration with our buddy Phunkadelica.

As LOCAL SUICIDE, we are working on some exciting collabs with artists like Zimmer, Nick Hanzo, Andre VII, Italo Brutalo, Oh!, Facets, Wiener Planquadrat, Hard Ton, Mike Sacchetti, Silenzi, Bobby Nourmand, OPS, Franz Matthews and NiKiT.

Gig-wise, we’re ending the year with a small Colombia / Mexico tour with two DINA SUMMER live gigs and a few LOCAL SUICIDE DJ sets. In the summer we’ll play Amphi Festival in Cologne, the Out Of Line Weekender in Berlin plus some more that aren’t announced yet and we’ve just confirmed a very special Halloween show in London for 2026!

Max: Also it’s the 5 year anniversary of our label Iptamenos Discos next year so we are planning a vinyl compilation, reissues, label parties all over Europe and got a bunch of EPs and singles by ourselves and friends in the making.


ELECTRICITYCLUB.CO.UK gives its sincerest thanks to LOCAL SUICIDE

Special thanks to Carina Cheung at Eclectica

‘Houdini’ is released as a 12” vinyl EP by Iptamenos Discos, further information via https://localsuicide.bfan.link/houdini

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Text and Interview by Chi Ming Lai
Photos by Omar Luis Choomare
30th January 2026

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